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The US can do no wrong

Postby VeritasVincit » Sat Apr 13, 2019 12:14 pm

“Last month the US secretary of state, Mike Pompeo, said Washington would revoke or deny visas to ICC staff seeking to investigate alleged war crimes and other abuses committed by US forces in Afghanistan or elsewhere.”

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2019/ap ... fghanistan

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Re: The US can do no wrong

Postby Royal24s » Sat Apr 13, 2019 1:20 pm

That's called backing up those who fight for you, as opposed to what the uk does. It probably springs from a loyalty to your own country, again as opposed to our own government
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Postby Monello » Sat Apr 13, 2019 1:43 pm

There is backing and then there is covering up. If crimes have been committed and there is sufficient reason to investigate, then there should be an investigation.

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Re: The US can do no wrong

Postby Ralph » Sat Apr 13, 2019 2:00 pm

VeritasVincit wrote:“Last month the US secretary of state, Mike Pompeo, said Washington would revoke or deny visas to ICC staff seeking to investigate alleged war crimes and other abuses committed by US forces in Afghanistan or elsewhere.”

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2019/ap ... fghanistan


How does covering up war crimes fit in with 'draining the swamp’? The Trump cultists will forgive anything. No moral compass.

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Re: The US can do no wrong

Postby VeritasVincit » Sat Apr 13, 2019 4:40 pm

Unfortunately in the view of some,but definitely not all, this is not a ‘Trumpist’ action, although the latest application of the rule may be thought of as such by some.

The American Service-Members' Protection Act of 2002,
"protects United States military personnel and other elected and appointed officials of the United States government against criminal prosecution by an international criminal court to which the which the United States is not party.”

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Re: The US can do no wrong

Postby AlcoholBrazil » Sat Apr 13, 2019 5:19 pm

Ralph wrote:How does covering up war crimes fit in with 'draining the swamp’? The Trump cultists will forgive anything. No moral compass.


Anyone would think that the Yanks did nothing corrupt before 2017. It was as if Watergate never happened.
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Re: The US can do no wrong

Postby Royal24s » Sat Apr 13, 2019 5:24 pm

In the times which are now undoubtedly coming, we shall need the loyalty of our armed forces but unfortunately that has been deliberately saboutaged by our foreign bought parliament along with every other pillar of our society.
Perhaps the Americans don't want their soldiers to feel unappreciated.
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Re: The US can do no wrong

Postby paolo » Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:58 pm

The us has been doing wrong for many many years......

It’s weird this seems to have reared its head in the past 2.5 years

How so?
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Re: The US can do no wrong

Postby Hillman avenger » Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:52 am

Royal24s wrote:In the times which are now undoubtedly coming, we shall need the loyalty of our armed forces but unfortunately that has been deliberately saboutaged by our foreign bought parliament along with every other pillar of our society.
Perhaps the Americans don't want their soldiers to feel unappreciated.

Given that 13,000 of them are having to give up their careers, lamented by their own senior officers, but as a result of Trump's bigotry, I suspect you may be right that they need to feel appreciated. Although I suspect that the great majority would want colleagues who had done such things to be identified and punished.
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Re: The US can do no wrong

Postby Royal24s » Sun Apr 14, 2019 7:32 pm

The fact that you think any soldiers would want their comrades caught for what you'd regard as brutality just shows how little you understand soldiers. They're quite a brutal and intolerant lot altogether really ,which is a good thing actually.
Similarly, loyalty is a very different thing to feeling appreciated in the military mind but once that loyalty has been betrayed it is easily destroyed.

In the real world nobody in the military is upset by the tranny ban if that's what you're on about and most would want to go a lot further.
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Re: The US can do no wrong

Postby Hillman avenger » Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:22 pm

Thanks for that
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Re: The US can do no wrong

Postby Royal24s » Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:44 pm

My pleasure
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Re: The US can do no wrong

Postby Petingo » Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:16 pm

Royal24s wrote:That's called backing up those who fight for you, as opposed to what the uk does. It probably springs from a loyalty to your own country, again as opposed to our own government



Another :lol: moment from dear ol’ Brother Royals.

Displaying his usual tenuous grasp of history as more light is shed on the Amritsar Massacre, the centenary of which occurred last week.

A shameful and bloody episode in British military history but eh wot, old fruit.....we mustn’t criticise it for fear of being disloyal.

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Re: The US can do no wrong

Postby Ralph » Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:33 pm



The word "hopes" carrying a lot of weight there. More a case of him wanting people to believe it’s a realistic possibility when it’s not.

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Re: The US can do no wrong

Postby Royal24s » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:36 pm

Petingo wrote:
Royal24s wrote:That's called backing up those who fight for you, as opposed to what the uk does. It probably springs from a loyalty to your own country, again as opposed to our own government



Another :lol: moment from dear ol’ Brother Royals.

Displaying his usual tenuous grasp of history as more light is shed on the Amritsar Massacre, the centenary of which occurred last week.

A shameful and bloody episode in British military history but eh wot, old fruit.....we mustn’t criticise it for fear of being disloyal.

:drinkers:



I don't think anyone's expecting loyalty from some of the people here. These things happen in wars in fact, and Britains got an excellent record compared to other countries, but it's no surprise that some here want to single them out. Truth is that a lot of people have been so brainwashed that they don't like this country much, and maybe they'll regret that if their dream of foreign subjugation or socialist dictatorship ever comes true.
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