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Moby Dicky wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:53 am The Labour Party seems to be doing its own frenetic version of the hokey cokey.
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It would benefit this country immensely if Corbyn and his fellow band of filthy racists ( including Mcdonnell, Burgon, Abbott, Long-Bailey, the vile Pidcock creature) fucked off, formed their own party and left the pitch for the grown ups who actually want power.
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Holden Mcgroyne wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:33 pm It would benefit this country immensely if Corbyn and his fellow band of filthy racists ( including Mcdonnell, Burgon, Abbott, Long-Bailey, the vile Pidcock creature) fucked off, formed their own party and left the pitch for the grown ups who actually want power.
Latest seems to be that he's been reinstated in to the Party but not the Parliamentary Party, so he, along with Margaret Ferrier, are now Independents, which isn't what the Electorate voted for, but there doesn't seem to be any mechanism which would force a by election, as with those Remoaner Tories who changed sides, they still remained MP's.
There doesn't seem to be any way of removing an MP once they've changed sides or been chucked out of their party.
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Holden Mcgroyne wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:33 pm It would benefit this country immensely if Corbyn and his fellow band of filthy racists ( including Mcdonnell, Burgon, Abbott, Long-Bailey, the vile Pidcock creature) fucked off, formed their own party and left the pitch for the grown ups who actually want power.
The problem with political parties only aiming for power and nothing else is that nothing positive gets done for the nation. Its just those in power bumbling along, lining the pockets of their friends, and everyone else has to make do. The nation remains stagnant or regresses altogether. As exmplified by our current government.

The claims of racism against jeremy corbyn have never been substantiated either.

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Remember all the plonkers singing his name at Glastonbury? Missed such a good chance to test-out our military drones there. I'm thinking some white phosphorus would have been good. I bet there were a lot of BLM and Extinction Rebellion snowflakes there too.

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BBC rolling screen thingy saying that Starmer says that Corbyn will not return as a Labour MP, I suppose that means he wont be returned to the Parliamentary Labour Party and will remain an Independent for the rest of the term, also that he wont be reselected by the local party in 2024.
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The Tick wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 3:17 pm
Holden Mcgroyne wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:33 pm It would benefit this country immensely if Corbyn and his fellow band of filthy racists ( including Mcdonnell, Burgon, Abbott, Long-Bailey, the vile Pidcock creature) fucked off, formed their own party and left the pitch for the grown ups who actually want power.
The problem with political parties only aiming for power and nothing else is that nothing positive gets done for the nation. Its just those in power bumbling along, lining the pockets of their friends, and everyone else has to make do. The nation remains stagnant or regresses altogether. As exmplified by our current government.

The claims of racism against jeremy corbyn have never been substantiated either.
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More than anything else, I just don't understand why people are prepared to risk it all for someone as unimpressive as Corbyn.

He isn't particularly smart, principled, endearing or charming.

Stamer is in difficult territory with this however.
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Zippy wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 3:50 pm More than anything else, I just don't understand why people are prepared to risk it all for someone as unimpressive as Corbyn.

He isn't particularly smart, principled, endearing or charming.

Stamer is in difficult territory with this however.
Corbyn isnt a political threat to anyone. The fact that starmer was prepared to expel him comes across as intolerance for opposing views wiith the party. Ironically this was one of the major accusations thrown at corbyn and his allies by opponents.

We have a scenario where people for years have been moaning about a lack of alternatives to the political status quo. Yet the moment any alternatives appear, its immediately assaulted to the point where people are left disillusioned and either fall back into backing the status quo or become completely apathetic.

This isnt a call to make anyone like or support Corbyn and his ideals. Its about protesting against the silencing of any divergent viewpoint. Starmer has continually made noises about establishing the labour party as a broad church but his actions come across as the complete opposite. It demonstrates a lack of moral fibre or true leadership.

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The Labour party trying to rid itself of the stench of the racism espoused by its last leader and the toxicity he attracted

Cut the racist free.
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Holden Mcgroyne wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 4:24 pm The Labour party trying to rid itself of the stench of the racism espoused by its last leader and the toxicity he attracted

Cut the racist free.
Jeremy corbyn isnt a racist by any measure of the definition.

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The Tick wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 4:04 pm
Zippy wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 3:50 pm More than anything else, I just don't understand why people are prepared to risk it all for someone as unimpressive as Corbyn.

He isn't particularly smart, principled, endearing or charming.

Stamer is in difficult territory with this however.
Corbyn isnt a political threat to anyone. The fact that starmer was prepared to expel him comes across as intolerance for opposing views wiith the party. Ironically this was one of the major accusations thrown at corbyn and his allies by opponents.

We have a scenario where people for years have been moaning about a lack of alternatives to the political status quo. Yet the moment any alternatives appear, its immediately assaulted to the point where people are left disillusioned and either fall back into backing the status quo or become completely apathetic.

This isnt a call to make anyone like or support Corbyn and his ideals. Its about protesting against the silencing of any divergent viewpoint. Starmer has continually made noises about establishing the labour party as a broad church but his actions come across as the complete opposite. It demonstrates a lack of moral fibre or true leadership.
I'd say the Labour party had never been a more narrow pool of ideas and views than under Corbyn. It lost a lot of good MPs and potential ministerial talent in favour of pro-Corbyn selections. Ultimately there was no real alternative on offer - Corbyn himself has never done much at all for working people.

At best, he didn't do enough to stop what was clearly a growing anti-semitic movement within his party. At worst, he helped fuel it. The hounding out of Luciana Berger was a good example of this. He seemed very unsympathetic to her plight.

I don't think someone should be kicked out for expressing their views, but his non-apology relating to the EHRC report was pretty pathetic and that definitely justified his suspension. The UK Jewish community aren't all getting it wrong. They have very real fears about this issue which should have been nipped in the bud right away yet was allowed to fester and grow.
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His favourite hobby is to go out marching on anti-Israel rallies on the weekend with his obsessed extremist Muslim buddies.

His claims of innocence are hard to believe.

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Zippy wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 5:11 pm
The Tick wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 4:04 pm
Zippy wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 3:50 pm More than anything else, I just don't understand why people are prepared to risk it all for someone as unimpressive as Corbyn.

He isn't particularly smart, principled, endearing or charming.

Stamer is in difficult territory with this however.
Corbyn isnt a political threat to anyone. The fact that starmer was prepared to expel him comes across as intolerance for opposing views wiith the party. Ironically this was one of the major accusations thrown at corbyn and his allies by opponents.

We have a scenario where people for years have been moaning about a lack of alternatives to the political status quo. Yet the moment any alternatives appear, its immediately assaulted to the point where people are left disillusioned and either fall back into backing the status quo or become completely apathetic.

This isnt a call to make anyone like or support Corbyn and his ideals. Its about protesting against the silencing of any divergent viewpoint. Starmer has continually made noises about establishing the labour party as a broad church but his actions come across as the complete opposite. It demonstrates a lack of moral fibre or true leadership.
I'd say the Labour party had never been a more narrow pool of ideas and views than under Corbyn. It lost a lot of good MPs and potential ministerial talent in favour of pro-Corbyn selections. Ultimately there was no real alternative on offer - Corbyn himself has never done much at all for working people.

At best, he didn't do enough to stop what was clearly a growing anti-semitic movement within his party. At worst, he helped fuel it. The hounding out of Luciana Berger was a good example of this. He seemed very unsympathetic to her plight.

I don't think someone should be kicked out for expressing their views, but his non-apology relating to the EHRC report was pretty pathetic and that definitely justified his suspension. The UK Jewish community aren't all getting it wrong. They have very real fears about this issue which should have been nipped in the bud right away yet was allowed to fester and grow.
The accusations of anti semitism were never more than a coordinated smear campaign against someone who campaigned against zionism. While isolated incidents of antiaemitic behaviour were indeed addressed before and during corbyns tenure as labour leader anti smeitism had never entrenched itself in the party.

The jewish voice for labour has said as much themselves.

https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk ... rc-report/
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Well the Jewish voice for Labour has spoken, that's the end of it I suppose.

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