Jeremy Corbyn

[gheko]

So they are pro labour, ie biased.

Jewish Labour Movement condemns Corbyn's readmission.........
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... eadmission

[Holden Mcgroyne]

More than anything else, I just don't understand why people are prepared to risk it all for someone as unimpressive as Corbyn.

He isn't particularly smart, principled, endearing or charming.

Stamer is in difficult territory with this however.

Corbyn isnt a political threat to anyone. The fact that starmer was prepared to expel him comes across as intolerance for opposing views wiith the party. Ironically this was one of the major accusations thrown at corbyn and his allies by opponents.

We have a scenario where people for years have been moaning about a lack of alternatives to the political status quo. Yet the moment any alternatives appear, its immediately assaulted to the point where people are left disillusioned and either fall back into backing the status quo or become completely apathetic.

This isnt a call to make anyone like or support Corbyn and his ideals. Its about protesting against the silencing of any divergent viewpoint. Starmer has continually made noises about establishing the labour party as a broad church but his actions come across as the complete opposite. It demonstrates a lack of moral fibre or true leadership.

I'd say the Labour party had never been a more narrow pool of ideas and views than under Corbyn. It lost a lot of good MPs and potential ministerial talent in favour of pro-Corbyn selections. Ultimately there was no real alternative on offer - Corbyn himself has never done much at all for working people.

At best, he didn't do enough to stop what was clearly a growing anti-semitic movement within his party. At worst, he helped fuel it. The hounding out of Luciana Berger was a good example of this. He seemed very unsympathetic to her plight.

I don't think someone should be kicked out for expressing their views, but his non-apology relating to the EHRC report was pretty pathetic and that definitely justified his suspension. The UK Jewish community aren't all getting it wrong. They have very real fears about this issue which should have been nipped in the bud right away yet was allowed to fester and grow.

The accusations of anti semitism were never more than a coordinated smear campaign against someone who campaigned against zionism. While isolated incidents of antiaemitic behaviour were indeed addressed before and during corbyns tenure as labour leader anti smeitism had never entrenched itself in the party.

The jewish voice for labour has said as much themselves.

https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk ... rc-report/

Jewish Voice for Labour

A few hundred trots who formed the group in 2017 to defend their racist leader.

It's like asking a black UKIP MEP to comment on racism.

[Zippy]

More than anything else, I just don't understand why people are prepared to risk it all for someone as unimpressive as Corbyn.

He isn't particularly smart, principled, endearing or charming.

Stamer is in difficult territory with this however.

Corbyn isnt a political threat to anyone. The fact that starmer was prepared to expel him comes across as intolerance for opposing views wiith the party. Ironically this was one of the major accusations thrown at corbyn and his allies by opponents.

We have a scenario where people for years have been moaning about a lack of alternatives to the political status quo. Yet the moment any alternatives appear, its immediately assaulted to the point where people are left disillusioned and either fall back into backing the status quo or become completely apathetic.

This isnt a call to make anyone like or support Corbyn and his ideals. Its about protesting against the silencing of any divergent viewpoint. Starmer has continually made noises about establishing the labour party as a broad church but his actions come across as the complete opposite. It demonstrates a lack of moral fibre or true leadership.

I'd say the Labour party had never been a more narrow pool of ideas and views than under Corbyn. It lost a lot of good MPs and potential ministerial talent in favour of pro-Corbyn selections. Ultimately there was no real alternative on offer - Corbyn himself has never done much at all for working people.

At best, he didn't do enough to stop what was clearly a growing anti-semitic movement within his party. At worst, he helped fuel it. The hounding out of Luciana Berger was a good example of this. He seemed very unsympathetic to her plight.

I don't think someone should be kicked out for expressing their views, but his non-apology relating to the EHRC report was pretty pathetic and that definitely justified his suspension. The UK Jewish community aren't all getting it wrong. They have very real fears about this issue which should have been nipped in the bud right away yet was allowed to fester and grow.

The accusations of anti semitism were never more than a coordinated smear campaign against someone who campaigned against zionism. While isolated incidents of antiaemitic behaviour were indeed addressed before and during corbyns tenure as labour leader anti smeitism had never entrenched itself in the party.

The jewish voice for labour has said as much themselves.

https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk ... rc-report/

JVL have zero credibility.

[Holden Mcgroyne]

Imagine any normal person thinking that they’d go and have a cup of tea with a Holocaust denier just to hear their views.

[The Tick]

Imagine any normal person thinking that they’d go and have a cup of tea with a Holocaust denier just to hear their views.

Neither corbyn or JVL have had a cup of tea with a holocaust denier.

[Vespa]

Imagine any normal person thinking that they’d go and have a cup of tea with a Holocaust denier just to hear their views.

Imagine supporting a guy who represents Jewish bankers playing Monopoly on the backs of slaves in 'art'.

[Holden Mcgroyne]

Imagine any normal person thinking that they’d go and have a cup of tea with a Holocaust denier just to hear their views.

Neither corbyn or JVL have had a cup of tea with a holocaust denier.

Apologies, he didn't have a cup of tea, he funded him

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/29/opin ... emite.html


Was there ever any reports of him meeting the UVF, maybe even just members of the DUP ? Any reports of him meeting members of the Israeli government ? How about having a chat with leaders of companies who he thought were going to be part of NHS privatisation ? Or was he just keeping to his echo chamber of causes he's supported all his life ?

[The Tick]

Imagine any normal person thinking that they’d go and have a cup of tea with a Holocaust denier just to hear their views.

Neither corbyn or JVL have had a cup of tea with a holocaust denier.

Apologies, he didn't have a cup of tea, he funded him

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/29/opin ... emite.html


Was there ever any reports of him meeting the UVF, maybe even just members of the DUP ? Any reports of him meeting members of the Israeli government ? How about having a chat with leaders of companies who he thought were going to be part of NHS privatisation ? Or was he just keeping to his echo chamber of causes he's supported all his life ?

That article doesnt advise that Jeremy corbyn funded any holocaust denier.

[Holden Mcgroyne]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... st-deniers



One of the Chronicle’s allegations is that Corbyn donated to Deir Yassin Remembered (DYR), run by the Holocaust denier Paul Eisen, who claimed in a blogpost, which has now been made private, that the candidate was a “long-standing associate” who attended his Deir Yassin commemorations.

Any reason why he'd do that ? Let me think.......

[The Tick]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... st-deniers



One of the Chronicle’s allegations is that Corbyn donated to Deir Yassin Remembered (DYR), run by the Holocaust denier Paul Eisen, who claimed in a blogpost, which has now been made private, that the candidate was a “long-standing associate” who attended his Deir Yassin commemorations.

Any reason why he'd do that ? Let me think.......

Allegations..

In other words, nothing substantiated.

Cheers for that.

[Ralph]

Corbyn’s a long-standing critic of Israel. It’s unthinking supporters + opportunist Tories are taking the opportunity to stick the boot in.

Boris Johnson has said & done far worse when it comes to promoting antisemitism. Just look at his time as editor of the Spectator.

The same weirdy celebs/lawyers/journalists who are running a vendetta against Corbyn have zero interest in holding him to account for his past behaviour.

So there’s no mystery what’s motivating this.

Keir Starmer is on a complete loser if he thinks he can find some reasonable compromise.

[Holden Mcgroyne]

Corbyn’s a long-standing critic of Israel. It’s unthinking supporters + opportunist Tories are taking the opportunity to stick the boot in.

Boris Johnson has said & done far worse when it comes to promoting antisemitism. Just look at his time as editor of the Spectator.

The same weirdy celebs/lawyers/journalists who are running a vendetta against Corbyn have zero interest in holding him to account for his past behaviour.

So there’s no mystery what’s motivating this.

Keir Starmer is on a complete loser if he thinks he can find some reasonable compromise.

They need to kick Corbyn out. If his racist buddies want to go with him, then all the better.

It's Starmer's 'Clause IV' moment. He needs a complete break from Labour's recent poisonous past.

[carcinogen]

They need to kick Corbyn out.

Or just kick him. Multiple times. In the head.

[The Ghost of Alex Higgins]

Jezza at the wheel!

[birdie]

They need to kick Corbyn out.

Or just kick him. Multiple times. In the head.

Steady on there, you wouldn't want to kick some sense into him, that would never do.