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Ralph wrote: Here’s an idea. Why doesn’t our government run our utilities & use the profits to fund our public services.

Privatisation of our utilities have been a total disaster, built on a pack of lies.

Where is the choice, where is the competition, where is the investment for the good of the customers apart from the shareholders?

If I go to Waitrose and don't like the prices, I'll go to another supermarket. If I want to travel from Euston to New Street, and Virgin Trains are charging a fortune, and are always late, I'm fucked. According to Martin Lewis you can save big money if you switch fuel supplier, but is it really all that. They are a cartel, and prices don't change that much between the big five or whatever it is.
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Sinbad wrote:
Eaststand wrote:They are being replaced though. Amazon has HUGE warehouses that employ hundreds of thousands of people. And the shop owners can use amazon fba to sell on amazon. Amazon is a high street, it's just millions and millions of different vendors under one roof. Shopify also exists, not to mention hundreds of other money making opportunities.

Just because you don't know about it or understand it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

The high Street is gone because it was shit and no one liked it, and as soon as we got an opportunity to get things cheaper while sitting on the sofa, we took it.



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Zambo wrote:
Ralph wrote: Here’s an idea. Why doesn’t our government run our utilities & use the profits to fund our public services.

Privatisation of our utilities have been a total disaster, built on a pack of lies.

Where is the choice, where is the competition, where is the investment for the good of the customers apart from the shareholders?

If I go to Waitrose and don't like the prices, I'll go to another supermarket. If I want to travel from Euston to New Street, and Virgin Trains are charging a fortune, and are always late, I'm fucked. According to Martin Lewis you can save big money if you switch fuel supplier, but is it really all that. They are a cartel, and prices don't change that much between the big five or whatever it is.


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Actually it's worse than that.
Utilities play a "let's pretend we compete" game, which gets a lot of people thinking it's real. It isn't; and what's more we pay for the resources they use to play that game.
The railways are, in fact, local monopolies. There are very few routes where customers have any choice in who transports them.
What is worse than a public monopoly? A private one.
What pisses me off in the beginning is that the period during which these operations were being sold off, the money coming in helped the government , but it was a one-off. It funded unemployment costs, as did the money from council house sales. If that had not happened Thatcher and then Major would have had the remarkable achievement of having high unemployment, high interest rates and high taxes all at the same time.
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Zambo wrote:
Ralph wrote: Here’s an idea. Why doesn’t our government run our utilities & use the profits to fund our public services.

Privatisation of our utilities have been a total disaster, built on a pack of lies.

Where is the choice, where is the competition, where is the investment for the good of the customers apart from the shareholders?

If I go to Waitrose and don't like the prices, I'll go to another supermarket. If I want to travel from Euston to New Street, and Virgin Trains are charging a fortune, and are always late, I'm fucked. According to Martin Lewis you can save big money if you switch fuel supplier, but is it really all that. They are a cartel, and prices don't change that much between the big five or whatever it is.


The government have looked at how Virgin run the trains & have decided it’s a good idea to hand them large chunks of the NHS. It’s a complete farce. Some things just don’t work well when the profit motive is introduced.

Like you say you can’t choose which train to get on if you have to make a certain journey so they have little incentive to keep prices down & run a punctual service.

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If anything needs sorting it's a wage cap in businesses which are also public services. There's too much greed and not enough efficiency. No one should have the right to make obscene profits and maybe it would discourage people from trying to acquire these assets.

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I have regularly thought fuck this I'll go to Asda or somewhere I can park as it's almost impossible to park on a normal high street now unless you have an electric car or are paraplegic.

I remember up in Stoke a couple of years back where the council were supposed to be totally skint. They went around all the backstreets and made sure they all had the very latest shiny new double yellow lines and a permanent warden patrolling an already dead area where hardly anyone shopped any more.

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m4rkb wrote:If anything needs sorting it's a wage cap in businesses which are also public services. There's too much greed and not enough efficiency. No one should have the right to make obscene profits and maybe it would discourage people from trying to acquire these assets.


How difficult can it be to run a company that makes a profit when you have no competition.

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Ralph wrote:
m4rkb wrote:If anything needs sorting it's a wage cap in businesses which are also public services. There's too much greed and not enough efficiency. No one should have the right to make obscene profits and maybe it would discourage people from trying to acquire these assets.


How difficult can it be to run a company that makes a profit when you have no competition.


It isn't, and with increasing globalisation you'll see many more.

We need to have rules on the growth of businesses which prevents everyday life from resembling the end point of a game of monopoly where you can't land on any square without a penalty.

But these supra-national companies are now dictating their own terms to what used to be state governments but are now all represented by the EU or other remote bodies but who have less power.

It's amazing how the left now support ultra capitalism, oligarchy, plutocracy and everything they claimed they were against on the grounds these people have convinced you they are socialists in what they offer.

In fact they are. Eventually they will bring you poverty.

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Twenty years ago the CEO of FTSE companies was paid around 50 times what that company's lowest paid person was paid.

Now it's 150 times.
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Hillman avenger wrote:Twenty years ago the CEO of FTSE companies was paid around 50 times what that company's lowest paid person was paid.

Now it's 150 times.


Are any of these massive EU backed globalist entities to whom you seem to have now given your full support?

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I have no idea where you got that from.
Chances are neither do you.
Try BT or Carillion. Fuck all to do with globalism.
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m4rkb wrote:
Hillman avenger wrote:Twenty years ago the CEO of FTSE companies was paid around 50 times what that company's lowest paid person was paid.

Now it's 150 times.


Are any of these massive EU backed globalist entities to whom you seem to have now given your full support?


The EU didn’t privatise our trains & utilities. It’s not the EU who’s privatising the NHS. These were decisions made by politicians in Westminster. Jeremy Hunt’s antipathy towards the NHS won’t vanish when we leave the EU.

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House of Fraser going down the shitter with 7,000 jobs at risk.

Mike Ashley reportedly interested in taking ownership through Sports Direct. Fuck’s sake.

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Asset stripping time by Ashley
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