BY THE WAY, KING OF THE RETARDS TOMMY ROBINSON HILARIOUSLY GOT HIMSELF SENT TO PRISON.

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m4rkb wrote:So we can call black people gammons then?
Try "biltong".
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It's not childish to discuss issues. What is childish, is to make crass generalisations and then accuse others of "twisting it whichever way you want". The definition of "gammons" you supplied yesterday:

Gammon
(Noun/mass noun): A term used to describe a particular type of Brexit-voting, middle-aged white male, whose meat-faced complexion suggests they are perilously close to a stroke.

There is nothing about Tommy Robinson, or racism in there. So you have chosen to associate the term as follows "In real life people think the term gammon is a funny term for thick cunts who want to fellate Tommy Robinson, and in no way racist.

If you want to continually call other people racist, then expect to be questioned when you use insults related, in part, to ethnicity.
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I didnt realise that black people can stop being black by drinking less and lowering their salt intake. Oh yeah, they can't, theyre a race of people, not some people who are unhealthy with abhorrent views.

Heavy drinkers are not a race of people.

Please stop mate. Please. Its so stupid. So very stupid. It makes no sense at all. And you know it doesnt, you're not a moron, so this is my final word on the matter.
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Eaststand wrote:I didnt realise that black people can stop being black by drinking less and lowering their salt intake. Oh yeah, they can't, theyre a race of people, not some people who are unhealthy with abhorrent views.

Heavy drinkers are not a race of people.

Please stop mate. Please. Its so stupid. So very stupid. It makes no sense at all. And you know it doesnt, you're not a moron, so this is my final word on the matter.


You forgot the "white" part of the "Gammons" insult. That is the crucial part that makes it a racial slur. If you are happy with ethically based stereotypes then fine, I'll leave it there.
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Obviously didn't put enough factor 50 today, so you could say I'm a bit of a temporary gammon. No one has called me one yet, but why would I give shit if they did It's just a relatively new leftie attempt to wind up the right.

Is it racist, is it bollocks, it's just a woefully pathetic attemt at an insult and anyone who bites at it needs to have a look at themslves. Either that or phonee 999 and say they have been racially abused.

If it had been the other way around though, you'd have had Jo Brand leading marches on Downing St. Gammon lives matter.
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Darkyboy wrote:
Eaststand wrote:I didnt realise that black people can stop being black by drinking less and lowering their salt intake. Oh yeah, they can't, theyre a race of people, not some people who are unhealthy with abhorrent views.

Heavy drinkers are not a race of people.

Please stop mate. Please. Its so stupid. So very stupid. It makes no sense at all. And you know it doesnt, you're not a moron, so this is my final word on the matter.


You forgot the "white" part of the "Gammons" insult. That is the crucial part that makes it a racial slur. If you are happy with ethically based stereotypes then fine, I'll leave it there.


Jesus. The last two days of your lefty snowflake moaning about gammon, and being offended by everything and trying to shutdown free speech is really making me want to turn the right

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Zambo wrote:Obviously didn't put enough factor 50 today, so you could say I'm a bit of a temporary gammon. No one has called me one yet, but why would I give shit if they did It's just a relatively new leftie attempt to wind up the right. [/highlight]

Is it racist, is it bollocks, it's just a woefully pathetic attemt at an insult and anyone who bites at it needs to have a look at themslves. Either that or phonee 999 and say they have been racially abused.

If it had been the other way around though, you'd have had Jo Brand leading marches on Downing St. Gammon lives matter.


I have to put factor 50 on when I go out in the sun. Doctors orders.

Say it loud! I’m gammon & I’m proud.

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PG30 wrote:
Darkyboy wrote:
Eaststand wrote:I didnt realise that black people can stop being black by drinking less and lowering their salt intake. Oh yeah, they can't, theyre a race of people, not some people who are unhealthy with abhorrent views.

Heavy drinkers are not a race of people.

Please stop mate. Please. Its so stupid. So very stupid. It makes no sense at all. And you know it doesnt, you're not a moron, so this is my final word on the matter.


You forgot the "white" part of the "Gammons" insult. That is the crucial part that makes it a racial slur. If you are happy with ethically based stereotypes then fine, I'll leave it there.


Jesus. The last two days of your lefty snowflake moaning about gammon, and being offended by everything and trying to shutdown free speech is really making me want to turn the right


Oh I see. So my highlighting the hypocrisy of the perpetual moaning left has upset you. I have constantly said that I am not seeking to close down the debate (please feel free to prove otherwise); but to open it up as to what racism actually is. Royals understood and was prepared to move the debate on, but it was sidetracked once more. If you and the cyber-stalker known as Ralph (who I never respond to, but follows like a jilted ex) choose not to see that then, fair enough.

I imagine that you are a Labour supporter? If you want Labour to win an election, you need to win over the traditional Labour, working class vote. Calling them silly names will not do that. Marginalising and demonising sections of the electorate loses more votes than it gains. The Conservatives do not win elections, because people love them. They win because people loathe what Labour has become.
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Darkyboy wrote:
PG30 wrote:
Darkyboy wrote:
Eaststand wrote:I didnt realise that black people can stop being black by drinking less and lowering their salt intake. Oh yeah, they can't, theyre a race of people, not some people who are unhealthy with abhorrent views.

Heavy drinkers are not a race of people.

Please stop mate. Please. Its so stupid. So very stupid. It makes no sense at all. And you know it doesnt, you're not a moron, so this is my final word on the matter.


You forgot the "white" part of the "Gammons" insult. That is the crucial part that makes it a racial slur. If you are happy with ethically based stereotypes then fine, I'll leave it there.


Jesus. The last two days of your lefty snowflake moaning about gammon, and being offended by everything and trying to shutdown free speech is really making me want to turn the right


Oh I see. So my highlighting the hypocrisy of the perpetual moaning left has upset youI have constantly said that I am not seeking to close down the debate (please feel free to prove otherwise); but to open it up as to what racism actually is. Royals understood and was prepared to move the debate on, but it was sidetracked once more. If you and the cyber-stalker known as Ralph (who I never respond to, but follows like a jilted ex) choose not to see that then, fair enough.

I imagine that you are a Labour supporter? If you want Labour to win an election, you need to win over the traditional Labour, working class vote. Calling them silly names will not do that. Marginalising and demonising sections of the electorate loses more votes than it gains. The Conservatives do not win elections, because people love them. They win because people loathe what Labour has become.
Another invented grievance from the perpetually moaning Darkyboy. I respond to your posts in the ‘Debate & Discussion’ section of a public forum. If I turned up at your house to debate the meaning of ‘gammon’ or argue about Brexit you’d have reason to complain.

BTW since 1997 we’ve had 2 years of majority Conservative government & a gammon is much more likely to be an upper middle class country club bore than working class. Gammon isn’t about race or class, it’s an attitude.

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You just said gammons were upper middle class then immediately said it isn't about class !

Let's be honest Ralph, it IS a racial slur, plain and simple.

Is this the same as the left aren't anti Semitic , even though they are ?

Same old crap really. The bankers and manipulators used to encourage thick people to blame blacks and Jews for everything, and when that got unpopular they singled out white males for the same treatment.

The shit stirrers don't change and decent people don't change , but the storm troopers do, and the same class of morons who threw stones at Jewish shops and enabled the gas chambers , and who looked upon blacks as evil devils are now shouting "gammon".

Who cares ? Nazis are Nazis and they always lose in the end.
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Come on chaps, calling someone a 'gammon' isn't racist surely. It's intended to be an insult made up by the loonies. The equivalent are words like libtard, remoaner, and to put them in the same category as Paki or wog for e.g. is just bonkers.
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Zambo wrote:Come on chaps, calling someone a 'gammon' isn't racist surely. It's intended to be an insult made up by the loonies. The equivalent are words like libtard, remoaner, and to put them in the same category as Paki or wog for e.g. is just bonkers.


I wonder if they ever sit down for a minute and think to themselves “shit, I’ve just spent two days arguing that the word gammon is racist, what the fuck am I doing with my life”

It’s clearly not racist, I just wonder if it hits a bit close to home

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Royal24s wrote:You just said gammons were upper middle class then immediately said it isn't about class !

Let's be honest Ralph, it IS a racial slur, plain and simple.

Is this the same as the left aren't anti Semitic , even though they are ?

Same old crap really. The bankers and manipulators used to encourage thick people to blame blacks and Jews for everything, and when that got unpopular they singled out white males for the same treatment.

The shit stirrers don't change and decent people don't change , but the storm troopers do, and the same class of morons who threw stones at Jewish shops and enabled the gas chambers , and who looked upon blacks as evil devils are now shouting "gammon".

Who cares ? Nazis are Nazis and they always lose in the end.


For goodness sake, do not encourage people to try and broaden the discussion. People do not want to see racism, prejudice etc as part of wider problems. They are happy being manipulated into shouting "racist" every time a white person says something they do not like. The far left do not realise how racist, prejudiced and hateful they are, so deflect their bile onto any one that's not them. As you well know, Socialist regimes over the years, have way and means of dealing with "the other".
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Zambo wrote:Come on chaps, calling someone a 'gammon' isn't racist surely. It's intended to be an insult made up by the loonies. The equivalent are words like libtard, remoaner, and to put them in the same category as Paki or wog for e.g. is just bonkers.


I doubt anyone on the right really cares about being a called a gammon. I certainly don't. Where the real interest lies is in exposing leftist hypocrisy. They call everything under the sun 'racist' for the lamest of reasons , yet sit on their hands claiming it's not racist when the term is specifically used to describe a skin tone but towards who they see as political opposition. It's playground stuff really , and as has been pointed out above, these gammons are now Trad Labour.

We can only presume the Labour vote has mutated and is now so progressive that the white working classes are now seen as worthy of targets for insulting.

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Zambo wrote:Come on chaps, calling someone a 'gammon' isn't racist surely. It's intended to be an insult made up by the loonies. The equivalent are words like libtard, remoaner, and to put them in the same category as Paki or wog for e.g. is just bonkers.


It sounds a humorous insult, but it is based on race, so of course it's a racist term. If the term referred to black people, you can be damn sure it would be called racist. As for other racist terms, the word "Paki" wasn't racist, because it's short for Pakistani; but it became racist, because it was used by the far right to demean Asians in general.
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