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I like the way the official NIST report only studied the events leading up to the collapse so they didn't have to answer to the armies of scientists and architects who were adamant the Towers could never have collapsed in the way they did.

My personal favoutites are physicists whose area of expertise is forces. Their rules are what the entire physical world is based on and where the designers get their building calculations from. People so clever they can explain the universe.

Equal and opposite forces and all that.

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I can already hear pople sayinh it's all been debunked. If so why won't they have a debate with them rather than flat refuse. If it happened the way they say an open debate would prove the debunking. As it stands there is a great deal of suspicion why they don't. What's to hide?

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the north tower collapsed on itself in 2 hours

the south tower in 1 hour....

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If you listen very carefully although you can't see them you can actually hear multiple aircraft hit the building sequentially almost as if explosive charges had been deliberately planted...


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m4rkb wrote:I can already hear pople sayinh it's all been debunked. If so why won't they have a debate with them rather than flat refuse. If it happened the way they say an open debate would prove the debunking. As it stands there is a great deal of suspicion why they don't. What's to hide?

For much the same reason that we don't spend a lot of time discussing gravity.
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Hillman avenger wrote:
m4rkb wrote:I can already hear pople sayinh it's all been debunked. If so why won't they have a debate with them rather than flat refuse. If it happened the way they say an open debate would prove the debunking. As it stands there is a great deal of suspicion why they don't. What's to hide?

For much the same reason that we don't spend a lot of time discussing gravity.


Physicists know all about gravity. Right down to the slightest variant of it in outer space millions of light years away.

They also know about upward forces equalling downward forces and that everything which crumbled did so upwards too. They also know that ten stories falling down suffer as much damage in the upward direction as the floors below so eventually ten floor cannot possibly collapse 90 floors . Plus the lower floors got stronger nearer the bottom.

All the NIST lot need to do is show their calculations and the matter is closed - subject to other highly qualified physicists and structural engineers agreeing on the maths. It's so simple you'd have thought they'd have done it by now rather than let the matter rumble on for nearly 20 years.

I'd say they can't or they would have done so by now. The mechanics of the collapse are omitted from their "paid to find what they were paid to find report"

Of course it would satisfy you though because the government and the BBC said so. I take a little more convincing myself.

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I have no idea what the BBC said about it.
I do know that very reputable engineer, materials scientist, explosives expert, architect, and all the rest have ridiculed the conspiracy theories. Conspiracies that would have required something like 25,000 people to keep quiet about, for the next 17 years.
But you are now automatically assuming the stance of rejecting anything anyone says who knows anything about anything.
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Hillman avenger wrote:I have no idea what the BBC said about it.
I do know that very reputable engineer, materials scientist, explosives expert, architect, and all the rest have ridiculed the conspiracy theories. Conspiracies that would have required something like 25,000 people to keep quiet about, for the next 17 years.
But you are now automatically assuming the stance of rejecting anything anyone says who knows anything about anything.


Did I say that?

I thought I've always said there was something fishy which didn't stack up and asked for a set of calculations that could be debated by others who are as equally qualified and probably just as numerous as those who parrot the official line before their job goes to someone who will.

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Try researching it yourself.
The rest of us have moved on.
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m4rkb wrote:
Hillman avenger wrote:
m4rkb wrote:I can already hear pople sayinh it's all been debunked. If so why won't they have a debate with them rather than flat refuse. If it happened the way they say an open debate would prove the debunking. As it stands there is a great deal of suspicion why they don't. What's to hide?

For much the same reason that we don't spend a lot of time discussing gravity.


Physicists know all about gravity. Right down to the slightest variant of it in outer space millions of light years away.

They also know about upward forces equalling downward forces and that everything which crumbled did so upwards too. They also know that ten stories falling down suffer as much damage in the upward direction as the floors below so eventually ten floor cannot possibly collapse 90 floors . Plus the lower floors got stronger nearer the bottom.

All the NIST lot need to do is show their calculations and the matter is closed - subject to other highly qualified physicists and structural engineers agreeing on the maths. It's so simple you'd have thought they'd have done it by now rather than let the matter rumble on for nearly 20 years.

I'd say they can't or they would have done so by now. The mechanics of the collapse are omitted from their "paid to find what they were paid to find report"

Of course it would satisfy you though because the government and the BBC said so. I take a little more convincing myself.

Only fucking idiots believe conspiracy theories on 9/11.
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subsub wrote:
m4rkb wrote:
Hillman avenger wrote:
m4rkb wrote:I can already hear pople sayinh it's all been debunked. If so why won't they have a debate with them rather than flat refuse. If it happened the way they say an open debate would prove the debunking. As it stands there is a great deal of suspicion why they don't. What's to hide?

For much the same reason that we don't spend a lot of time discussing gravity.


Physicists know all about gravity. Right down to the slightest variant of it in outer space millions of light years away.

They also know about upward forces equalling downward forces and that everything which crumbled did so upwards too. They also know that ten stories falling down suffer as much damage in the upward direction as the floors below so eventually ten floor cannot possibly collapse 90 floors . Plus the lower floors got stronger nearer the bottom.

All the NIST lot need to do is show their calculations and the matter is closed - subject to other highly qualified physicists and structural engineers agreeing on the maths. It's so simple you'd have thought they'd have done it by now rather than let the matter rumble on for nearly 20 years.

I'd say they can't or they would have done so by now. The mechanics of the collapse are omitted from their "paid to find what they were paid to find report"

Of course it would satisfy you though because the government and the BBC said so. I take a little more convincing myself.

Only fucking idiots believe conspiracy theories on 9/11.
The same kind of simpletons who blame immigrants for all of the UK's ills.


A couple of things my dear pretend journo who couldn't write a decent piece for a parish council let alone anything in proper print.

Firstly if you believe the hype it was immigrants that caused the biggest atrocity on US soil, I'm actually saying there could be people even worse than immigrants already in the US. I'd like a little bit more digging to be done to see if I'm right rather than fall for someone's biased propaganda.

Secondly. Believing dubious globalist peddled rubbish is a bigger sign of being an idiot than questioning it - if there is valid reason to do so. We could have done with a bit more of this approach back when the US and the UK told us we needed to bomb fuck out of Iraq and remove Saddam because of something a plane full of Saudis did. The same is now possibly going on in Syria involving the Russians.

I'll keep an eye out for your editorial expose on it in all the heavyweights - by scouring a few local church parishes and a few cards hung up in the newsagents window.

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Remarkable
Years later and you still haven't grasped that 9/11 was not a central reason they invaded Iraq.
As for your continuous posing as a very wise man who isn't deceived by false sources- you demonstrate every day that you are anything but.
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Hillman avenger wrote:Remarkable
Years later and you still haven't grasped that 9/11 was not a central reason they invaded Iraq.

Well I certainly agree with you there.

As for your continuous posing as a very wise man who isn't deceived by false sources- you demonstrate every day that you are anything but.

As for your continuous posing as an even more aloof wise man who isn't deceived by false sources- you demonstrate every couple of hours that you are anything but.

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m4rkb wrote:
subsub wrote:
m4rkb wrote:
Hillman avenger wrote:
m4rkb wrote:I can already hear pople sayinh it's all been debunked. If so why won't they have a debate with them rather than flat refuse. If it happened the way they say an open debate would prove the debunking. As it stands there is a great deal of suspicion why they don't. What's to hide?

For much the same reason that we don't spend a lot of time discussing gravity.


Physicists know all about gravity. Right down to the slightest variant of it in outer space millions of light years away.

They also know about upward forces equalling downward forces and that everything which crumbled did so upwards too. They also know that ten stories falling down suffer as much damage in the upward direction as the floors below so eventually ten floor cannot possibly collapse 90 floors . Plus the lower floors got stronger nearer the bottom.

All the NIST lot need to do is show their calculations and the matter is closed - subject to other highly qualified physicists and structural engineers agreeing on the maths. It's so simple you'd have thought they'd have done it by now rather than let the matter rumble on for nearly 20 years.

I'd say they can't or they would have done so by now. The mechanics of the collapse are omitted from their "paid to find what they were paid to find report"

Of course it would satisfy you though because the government and the BBC said so. I take a little more convincing myself.

Only fucking idiots believe conspiracy theories on 9/11.
The same kind of simpletons who blame immigrants for all of the UK's ills.


A couple of things my dear pretend journo who couldn't write a decent piece for a parish council let alone anything in proper print.

Firstly if you believe the hype it was immigrants that caused the biggest atrocity on US soil, I'm actually saying there could be people even worse than immigrants already in the US. I'd like a little bit more digging to be done to see if I'm right rather than fall for someone's biased propaganda.

Secondly. Believing dubious globalist peddled rubbish is a bigger sign of being an idiot than questioning it - if there is valid reason to do so. We could have done with a bit more of this approach back when the US and the UK told us we needed to bomb fuck out of Iraq and remove Saddam because of something a plane full of Saudis did. The same is now possibly going on in Syria involving the Russians.

I'll keep an eye out for your editorial expose on it in all the heavyweights - by scouring a few local church parishes and a few cards hung up in the newsagents window.

Don't give up the day job, son.
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