Should ISIS fighters be allowed to return 'home'?
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Regardless of how she got there, her coming back is the problem, I can’t see many teenage girls pandering to become Asian grooming gang victims in the future, this however is a different thing entirely.
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Kowalski wrote:Vespa wrote:Kowalski wrote: She may have been persuaded but to compare her to girls abused by dodgy cabbies and fast food workers is ridiculous.
They were just poor sexually abused girls, this was a person seduced by blood thirst and murder.
She was married to a fighter within a week. It is grooming either way.
She admittedly researched Isis and wanted to join.
She wanted to be a member of their cult.
So any girls who admit consensual underage drinking and sex haven't been groomed?
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warmleatherette wrote:Regardless of how she got there, her coming back is the problem, I can’t see many teenage girls pandering to become Asian grooming gang victims in the future, this however is a different thing entirely.
I doubt that type of grooming has stopped. You'll always have vulnerable girls and people who take advantage of them.
I wouldn't want this girl living in my town, however, I have little doubt she was groomed to travel to Syria.
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Looks like Javid has fallen at his first hurdle. The law allows him to remove citizenship if the person has rights to another citizenship - in this case, he believes Bangladesh.
They've said fat chance. He'll have to bribe them.
https://news.sky.com/story/is-teen-sham ... d-11642889
They've said fat chance. He'll have to bribe them.
https://news.sky.com/story/is-teen-sham ... d-11642889
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Vespa wrote:
So any girls who admit consensual underage drinking and sex haven't been groomed?
No they are the ones I call victims of grooming.
Girls that research sick terrorist groups and run away to join them I see as evil individuals as bad as their partners.
When I was 15 I knew murder was wrong and I think there is no excuse for their actions.
I hope she rots in hell.
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She was clearly groomed before she left and very quickly radicalised as you can tell by the way she now speaks. She doesn’t come across well but that’s probably because her head is full on nonsense.
Agree with Zambo. The Home Secretary is playing to the crowd, pandering to the tabloids.
I can see both sides of the argument but I suspect in the end she will be allowed back.
You do wonder though if it was a young blonde white girl whether the outtrcy would be the same.
Agree with Zambo. The Home Secretary is playing to the crowd, pandering to the tabloids.
I can see both sides of the argument but I suspect in the end she will be allowed back.
You do wonder though if it was a young blonde white girl whether the outtrcy would be the same.
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Now the family have thrown in the Syrian card saying that they may want to try her and she will suffer the death penalty..
You live as part of a terrorist organisation ,you are subject of the laws of that country.
She won't be missed.
You live as part of a terrorist organisation ,you are subject of the laws of that country.
She won't be missed.
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Seems like she's been removed from the refugee camp due to persecution. Clever lawyers getting her home by claiming asylum as she's no longer a british citizen perchance?
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Poor soul ,my heart bleeds !!
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Re: Should ISIS fighters be allowed to return 'home'?
Kowalski wrote:Vespa wrote:Kowalski wrote: She may have been persuaded but to compare her to girls abused by dodgy cabbies and fast food workers is ridiculous.
They were just poor sexually abused girls, this was a person seduced by blood thirst and murder.
She was married to a fighter within a week. It is grooming either way.
She admittedly researched Isis and wanted to join.
She wanted to be a member of their cult.
So you don't think that people get groomed to join cults?
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Re: Should ISIS fighters be allowed to return 'home'?
no
she knew right from wrong even before she was 'groomed and radicalised'...which is news speak bullshit
you knew it was wrong
u went and did it
u made ur choice
u lost
deal with it like a man
sadly, she won't lose, the useless baby pumper with attitude will get housed for the rest of her shite life and people will make excuses for her as she costs society morally and financially
she knew right from wrong even before she was 'groomed and radicalised'...which is news speak bullshit
you knew it was wrong
u went and did it
u made ur choice
u lost
deal with it like a man
sadly, she won't lose, the useless baby pumper with attitude will get housed for the rest of her shite life and people will make excuses for her as she costs society morally and financially
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What can you do apart from shrug your shoulders when you see this shit now.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... attle.html
Beghal was banned from the UK in 2009 after being jailed by the French for a plot to blow up the US embassy in Paris.
His wife is believed to have cost taxpayers more than a quarter of a million pounds in handouts since moving to the UK.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... attle.html
Beghal was banned from the UK in 2009 after being jailed by the French for a plot to blow up the US embassy in Paris.
His wife is believed to have cost taxpayers more than a quarter of a million pounds in handouts since moving to the UK.
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Re: Should ISIS fighters be allowed to return 'home'?
paolo wrote:no
she knew right from wrong even before she was 'groomed and radicalised'...which is news speak bullshit
you knew it was wrong
u went and did it
u made ur choice
u lost
deal with it like a man
sadly, she won't lose, the useless baby pumper with attitude will get housed for the rest of her shite life and people will make excuses for her as she costs society morally and financially
Spot on, Paolo
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Steve Hunt wrote:paolo wrote:no
she knew right from wrong even before she was 'groomed and radicalised'...which is news speak bullshit
you knew it was wrong
u went and did it
u made ur choice
u lost
deal with it like a man
sadly, she won't lose, the useless baby pumper with attitude will get housed for the rest of her shite life and people will make excuses for her as she costs society morally and financially
Spot on, Paolo
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If ISIS were still in control butchering the population have she would have been happy to stay put . They have been routed and she wants "home"
Me I'm a heartless bastard and yearn for a stray bullet putting an end to this farce.
Britain grow a pair FFS !!!
Me I'm a heartless bastard and yearn for a stray bullet putting an end to this farce.
Britain grow a pair FFS !!!
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