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shivah wrote:
PG30 wrote:
shivah wrote:The usual suspects would be saying RACIST RACIST RACIST ATTACK.

Other way round?

Silence.

Honky life isn't worth shit.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-48967618


I’m not really seeing the racist angle on this at all to be honest


Because they don't want to show you it.

But they will stick on a racist angle if it's a honky attacking a black.



Please do not refer to my race as being “honky” thank you very much.

You wouldn’t dare use “N-worder” to describe an African American on an internet message board so accord us white folk the same courtesy.
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Vespa wrote:If you want to know why mental health cuts are so awful this case sums it up.

Violent schizophrenic with a history of attacking people. Gets in an argument on a train, moves to another carriage, Pomeroy follows him eventually said violent schizophrenic stabs Pomeroy to death.

One dead man, two ruined family, one schizophrenic in jail.

Or it could just be a black guy went looking to kill a white guy.


Excellently summed up.

I’m not entirely sure why a persons skin colour plays such a major role in this story to some people.

Are they using it to strengthen their pre-conceived stereotypes?
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JudgeTedd wrote:
Vespa wrote:If you want to know why mental health cuts are so awful this case sums it up.

Violent schizophrenic with a history of attacking people. Gets in an argument on a train, moves to another carriage, Pomeroy follows him eventually said violent schizophrenic stabs Pomeroy to death.

One dead man, two ruined family, one schizophrenic in jail.

Or it could just be a black guy went looking to kill a white guy.


Excellently summed up.

I’m not entirely sure why a persons skin colour plays such a major role in this story to some people.

Are they using it to strengthen their pre-conceived stereotypes?


He was at a mental health clinic the day before. We're using the useless magistrates courts to manage very dangerous mentally ill people.

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JudgeTedd wrote:
Vespa wrote:If you want to know why mental health cuts are so awful this case sums it up.

Violent schizophrenic with a history of attacking people. Gets in an argument on a train, moves to another carriage, Pomeroy follows him eventually said violent schizophrenic stabs Pomeroy to death.

One dead man, two ruined family, one schizophrenic in jail.

Or it could just be a black guy went looking to kill a white guy.


Excellently summed up.

I’m not entirely sure why a persons skin colour plays such a major role in this story to some people.

Are they using it to strengthen their pre-conceived stereotypes?


Perhaps because numerous other cases where skin colours were reversed, and where the attacker was white and diagnosed with a mental illness, racism is still part of the reported picture.
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Vespa wrote:
JudgeTedd wrote:
Vespa wrote:If you want to know why mental health cuts are so awful this case sums it up.

Violent schizophrenic with a history of attacking people. Gets in an argument on a train, moves to another carriage, Pomeroy follows him eventually said violent schizophrenic stabs Pomeroy to death.

One dead man, two ruined family, one schizophrenic in jail.

Or it could just be a black guy went looking to kill a white guy.


Excellently summed up.

I’m not entirely sure why a persons skin colour plays such a major role in this story to some people.

Are they using it to strengthen their pre-conceived stereotypes?


He was at a mental health clinic the day before. We're using the useless magistrates courts to manage very dangerous mentally ill people.


I'm still keen to know if you were joking or not in your earlier post.
Anyone (such as Tick) that uses 'gammon' as a racial pejorative is as much a racist as those who use the word nigger and similar pejoratively.
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Train rage killer's gangland rap sheet revealed:

Cannabis addict who stabbed passenger 18 times in front of his son, 14, is member of notorious gang and bragged of gun and knife convictions - as he is jailed for life

Darren Pencille ran with London's South Man Syndicate [SMS] gang
Cannabis-addict was previously jailed for possession of a gun and a stabbing

The 36-year-old murdered Lee Pomeroy, 51, on Guildford to Waterloo train
Knife-obsessed killer brushed past his victim and later stabbed him in the neck

Killer fled the train at the next stop where his girlfriend helped him escape police

He was considered 'no risk to others' by a psychiatrist 24 hours before murder

Pencille was a paranoid schizophrenic - but refused to take medication and smoked super-strong cannabis to treat it instead

Pencille's extraordinary criminal past of 25 convictions for 30 offences - including slicing a man's neck in a row over a Rizla cigarette paper - was first revealed in a gang video posted on YouTube where he called on an enemy to meet and fight him.

And even after all that we still have people focusing on the poor killer and how society has let him down. Sickening.
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Zambo wrote:Train rage killer's gangland rap sheet revealed:

Cannabis addict who stabbed passenger 18 times in front of his son, 14, is member of notorious gang and bragged of gun and knife convictions - as he is jailed for life

Darren Pencille ran with London's South Man Syndicate [SMS] gang
Cannabis-addict was previously jailed for possession of a gun and a stabbing

The 36-year-old murdered Lee Pomeroy, 51, on Guildford to Waterloo train
Knife-obsessed killer brushed past his victim and later stabbed him in the neck

Killer fled the train at the next stop where his girlfriend helped him escape police

He was considered 'no risk to others' by a psychiatrist 24 hours before murder

Pencille was a paranoid schizophrenic - but refused to take medication and smoked super-strong cannabis to treat it instead

Pencille's extraordinary criminal past of 25 convictions for 30 offences - including slicing a man's neck in a row over a Rizla cigarette paper - was first revealed in a gang video posted on YouTube where he called on an enemy to meet and fight him.

And even after all that we still have people focusing on the poor killer and how society has let him down. Sickening.

What's the Daily Mail's take on it, Zambo? I'm sure they've got the inside track.
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Would you like to comment on the facts above, or is this going to be another infantile deflection with focus on the source of information.
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Zambo wrote:Would you like to comment on the facts above, or is this going to be another infantile deflection with focus on the source of information.

Calm down. Just asking the question.
Just curious to know how they've reported it.
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Zambo wrote:Train rage killer's gangland rap sheet revealed:

Cannabis addict who stabbed passenger 18 times in front of his son, 14, is member of notorious gang and bragged of gun and knife convictions - as he is jailed for life

Darren Pencille ran with London's South Man Syndicate [SMS] gang
Cannabis-addict was previously jailed for possession of a gun and a stabbing

The 36-year-old murdered Lee Pomeroy, 51, on Guildford to Waterloo train
Knife-obsessed killer brushed past his victim and later stabbed him in the neck

Killer fled the train at the next stop where his girlfriend helped him escape police

He was considered 'no risk to others' by a psychiatrist 24 hours before murder

Pencille was a paranoid schizophrenic - but refused to take medication and smoked super-strong cannabis to treat it instead

Pencille's extraordinary criminal past of 25 convictions for 30 offences - including slicing a man's neck in a row over a Rizla cigarette paper - was first revealed in a gang video posted on YouTube where he called on an enemy to meet and fight him.

And even after all that we still have people focusing on the poor killer and how society has let him down. Sickening.


I don’t think anyone is saying poor killer

More that society has let everyone down. Why is someone like that who is a criminal and mentally ill out on the streets

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subsub wrote:
Zambo wrote:Would you like to comment on the facts above, or is this going to be another infantile deflection with focus on the source of information.

Calm down. Just asking the question.
Just curious to know how they've reported it.

The post he made was copied and pasted from Mail Online.

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Zambo wrote:Train rage killer's gangland rap sheet revealed:

Cannabis addict who stabbed passenger 18 times in front of his son, 14, is member of notorious gang and bragged of gun and knife convictions - as he is jailed for life

Darren Pencille ran with London's South Man Syndicate [SMS] gang
Cannabis-addict was previously jailed for possession of a gun and a stabbing

The 36-year-old murdered Lee Pomeroy, 51, on Guildford to Waterloo train
Knife-obsessed killer brushed past his victim and later stabbed him in the neck

Killer fled the train at the next stop where his girlfriend helped him escape police

He was considered 'no risk to others' by a psychiatrist 24 hours before murder

Pencille was a paranoid schizophrenic - but refused to take medication and smoked super-strong cannabis to treat it instead

Pencille's extraordinary criminal past of 25 convictions for 30 offences - including slicing a man's neck in a row over a Rizla cigarette paper - was first revealed in a gang video posted on YouTube where he called on an enemy to meet and fight him.

And even after all that we still have people focusing on the poor killer and how society has let him down. Sickening.


I’m not sure why people are crowbarring race into this. He shouldn’t have been walking the streets because of his history of violence and severe mental health problems (that weren’t being treated). That’s the long & short of it.

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Ralph wrote:I’m not sure why people are crowbarring race into this.

Oh, I think you do :lol:

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Ralph wrote:
Zambo wrote:Train rage killer's gangland rap sheet revealed:

Cannabis addict who stabbed passenger 18 times in front of his son, 14, is member of notorious gang and bragged of gun and knife convictions - as he is jailed for life

Darren Pencille ran with London's South Man Syndicate [SMS] gang
Cannabis-addict was previously jailed for possession of a gun and a stabbing

The 36-year-old murdered Lee Pomeroy, 51, on Guildford to Waterloo train
Knife-obsessed killer brushed past his victim and later stabbed him in the neck

Killer fled the train at the next stop where his girlfriend helped him escape police

He was considered 'no risk to others' by a psychiatrist 24 hours before murder

Pencille was a paranoid schizophrenic - but refused to take medication and smoked super-strong cannabis to treat it instead

Pencille's extraordinary criminal past of 25 convictions for 30 offences - including slicing a man's neck in a row over a Rizla cigarette paper - was first revealed in a gang video posted on YouTube where he called on an enemy to meet and fight him.

And even after all that we still have people focusing on the poor killer and how society has let him down. Sickening.


I’m not sure why people are crowbarring race into this. He shouldn’t have been walking the streets because of his history of violence and severe mental health problems (that weren’t being treated). That’s the long & short of it.

Exactly. An individual who should not have been allowed in society who has wrecked one family's lives – utterly depressing.
What is also depressing how the usual mob on here pile in and starting talking about race. FFS, just let it go for once…
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Ralph wrote:
Zambo wrote:Train rage killer's gangland rap sheet revealed:

Cannabis addict who stabbed passenger 18 times in front of his son, 14, is member of notorious gang and bragged of gun and knife convictions - as he is jailed for life

Darren Pencille ran with London's South Man Syndicate [SMS] gang
Cannabis-addict was previously jailed for possession of a gun and a stabbing

The 36-year-old murdered Lee Pomeroy, 51, on Guildford to Waterloo train
Knife-obsessed killer brushed past his victim and later stabbed him in the neck

Killer fled the train at the next stop where his girlfriend helped him escape police

He was considered 'no risk to others' by a psychiatrist 24 hours before murder

Pencille was a paranoid schizophrenic - but refused to take medication and smoked super-strong cannabis to treat it instead

Pencille's extraordinary criminal past of 25 convictions for 30 offences - including slicing a man's neck in a row over a Rizla cigarette paper - was first revealed in a gang video posted on YouTube where he called on an enemy to meet and fight him.

And even after all that we still have people focusing on the poor killer and how society has let him down. Sickening.


I’m not sure why people are crowbarring race into this. He shouldn’t have been walking the streets because of his history of violence and severe mental health problems (that weren’t being treated). That’s the long & short of it.

Not sure why you've quoted my post to talk about race, as I haven't mentioned it. My point was that despite the disgaceful list above, and again it is irrelevant where that came from unless someone wants to dispute any of it, the focus from some is all about how the killer has been let down by society with hardly a mention of the victim and his family.

Unfortunately, that is the twisted and weird world we now seem to live in.
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