Hands free phoning in cars to be banned.?

[Hillman avenger]

Now they are suggesting hands free phoning in cars should be banned.

They say it is “distracting”.

Quite.

Is it any more “distracting” than speaking to your passengers?

I wouldn’t have thought so.

In fact, I would suggest talking to passengers is more “distracting” on account of one often turns one’s head to look at said passengers.

At least we can talk on the hands free without that particular risk.
There was an interview on PM with a woman who had been on a motorcycle hit by a van whose driver was on a hands-free phone call. She lost her leg. He got 6 points and £100 fine.
Evan Davies raised the question of "isn't it the same as talking to a passenger" and she made the very good point that a passenger is with you in your car and can moderate the conversation when you are in a pressure situation. Someone somewhere else has no idea.

Around here there are a lot of wizzy BMWs, Mercs and the rest, all of which will have Bluetooth. Yet every day I see people driving such cars while holding a phone. Too stupid or too lazy to connect them apparently.



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49320473

It's not 'a very good point', - it's just the best the safety extremists can come up with.
What about a bunch of loud kids of varying ages in the car? - they won't have a clue as to what is a 'pressure situation' or not - should they be banned next, or just anaesthetised?
As has been said numerous times, these people won't be happy until the bloke with red flag walks in front of us all again.

"Safety extremists"? That's a great one for the collection.

[Roy Twing]

Now they are suggesting hands free phoning in cars should be banned.

They say it is “distracting”.

Quite.

Is it any more “distracting” than speaking to your passengers?

I wouldn’t have thought so.

In fact, I would suggest talking to passengers is more “distracting” on account of one often turns one’s head to look at said passengers.

At least we can talk on the hands free without that particular risk.
There was an interview on PM with a woman who had been on a motorcycle hit by a van whose driver was on a hands-free phone call. She lost her leg. He got 6 points and £100 fine.
Evan Davies raised the question of "isn't it the same as talking to a passenger" and she made the very good point that a passenger is with you in your car and can moderate the conversation when you are in a pressure situation. Someone somewhere else has no idea.

Around here there are a lot of wizzy BMWs, Mercs and the rest, all of which will have Bluetooth. Yet every day I see people driving such cars while holding a phone. Too stupid or too lazy to connect them apparently.



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49320473

It's not 'a very good point', - it's just the best the safety extremists can come up with.
What about a bunch of loud kids of varying ages in the car? - they won't have a clue as to what is a 'pressure situation' or not - should they be banned next, or just anaesthetised?
As has been said numerous times, these people won't be happy until the bloke with red flag walks in front of us all again.

"Safety extremists"? That's a great one for the collection.

You're welcome.

Your reply wasn't much, but still an improvement over your usual.

[Zambo]

'And I'm adding two more years for making a hands-free call while you were being sentenced.'

[Hillman avenger]

Now they are suggesting hands free phoning in cars should be banned.

They say it is “distracting”.

Quite.

Is it any more “distracting” than speaking to your passengers?

I wouldn’t have thought so.

In fact, I would suggest talking to passengers is more “distracting” on account of one often turns one’s head to look at said passengers.

At least we can talk on the hands free without that particular risk.
There was an interview on PM with a woman who had been on a motorcycle hit by a van whose driver was on a hands-free phone call. She lost her leg. He got 6 points and £100 fine.
Evan Davies raised the question of "isn't it the same as talking to a passenger" and she made the very good point that a passenger is with you in your car and can moderate the conversation when you are in a pressure situation. Someone somewhere else has no idea.

Around here there are a lot of wizzy BMWs, Mercs and the rest, all of which will have Bluetooth. Yet every day I see people driving such cars while holding a phone. Too stupid or too lazy to connect them apparently.



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49320473

It's not 'a very good point', - it's just the best the safety extremists can come up with.
What about a bunch of loud kids of varying ages in the car? - they won't have a clue as to what is a 'pressure situation' or not - should they be banned next, or just anaesthetised?
As has been said numerous times, these people won't be happy until the bloke with red flag walks in front of us all again.

"Safety extremists"? That's a great one for the collection.

You're welcome.

Your reply wasn't much, but still an improvement over your usual.

Can you explain to me the logic that says because there are some potential distractions to drivers which we can't prevent, we should not do something about the ones we can?

[Roy Twing]

Now they are suggesting hands free phoning in cars should be banned.

They say it is “distracting”.

Quite.

Is it any more “distracting” than speaking to your passengers?

I wouldn’t have thought so.

In fact, I would suggest talking to passengers is more “distracting” on account of one often turns one’s head to look at said passengers.

At least we can talk on the hands free without that particular risk.
There was an interview on PM with a woman who had been on a motorcycle hit by a van whose driver was on a hands-free phone call. She lost her leg. He got 6 points and £100 fine.
Evan Davies raised the question of "isn't it the same as talking to a passenger" and she made the very good point that a passenger is with you in your car and can moderate the conversation when you are in a pressure situation. Someone somewhere else has no idea.

Around here there are a lot of wizzy BMWs, Mercs and the rest, all of which will have Bluetooth. Yet every day I see people driving such cars while holding a phone. Too stupid or too lazy to connect them apparently.



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49320473

It's not 'a very good point', - it's just the best the safety extremists can come up with.
What about a bunch of loud kids of varying ages in the car? - they won't have a clue as to what is a 'pressure situation' or not - should they be banned next, or just anaesthetised?
As has been said numerous times, these people won't be happy until the bloke with red flag walks in front of us all again.

"Safety extremists"? That's a great one for the collection.

You're welcome.

Your reply wasn't much, but still an improvement over your usual.

Can you explain to me the logic that says because there are some potential distractions to drivers which we can't prevent, we should not do something about the ones we can?

I can, and would be more than happy to, but seeing as it's you, I won't bother.

[Zambo]

Now they are suggesting hands free phoning in cars should be banned.

They say it is “distracting”.

Quite.

Is it any more “distracting” than speaking to your passengers?

I wouldn’t have thought so.

In fact, I would suggest talking to passengers is more “distracting” on account of one often turns one’s head to look at said passengers.

At least we can talk on the hands free without that particular risk.
There was an interview on PM with a woman who had been on a motorcycle hit by a van whose driver was on a hands-free phone call. She lost her leg. He got 6 points and £100 fine.
Evan Davies raised the question of "isn't it the same as talking to a passenger" and she made the very good point that a passenger is with you in your car and can moderate the conversation when you are in a pressure situation. Someone somewhere else has no idea.

Around here there are a lot of wizzy BMWs, Mercs and the rest, all of which will have Bluetooth. Yet every day I see people driving such cars while holding a phone. Too stupid or too lazy to connect them apparently.



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49320473

I've always been pro tough punishments for anyone using a held phone whilst driving, but this has gone past ridiculous. The accident may have had nothing to do with the driver being on a call, he may well have hit her anyway. Driving and talking at the same time should be coped with. If you drive from a to b with a passenger aboard, do you carry out the whole journey in silence. I bet you don't unless it's your mother-in-law.

[beingsoblase]

Now they are suggesting hands free phoning in cars should be banned.

They say it is “distracting”.

Quite.

Is it any more “distracting” than speaking to your passengers?

I wouldn’t have thought so.

In fact, I would suggest talking to passengers is more “distracting” on account of one often turns one’s head to look at said passengers.

At least we can talk on the hands free without that particular risk.
There was an interview on PM with a woman who had been on a motorcycle hit by a van whose driver was on a hands-free phone call. She lost her leg. He got 6 points and £100 fine.
Evan Davies raised the question of "isn't it the same as talking to a passenger" and she made the very good point that a passenger is with you in your car and can moderate the conversation when you are in a pressure situation. Someone somewhere else has no idea.

Around here there are a lot of wizzy BMWs, Mercs and the rest, all of which will have Bluetooth. Yet every day I see people driving such cars while holding a phone. Too stupid or too lazy to connect them apparently.



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49320473

It's not 'a very good point', - it's just the best the safety extremists can come up with.
What about a bunch of loud kids of varying ages in the car? - they won't have a clue as to what is a 'pressure situation' or not - should they be banned next, or just anaesthetised?
As has been said numerous times, these people won't be happy until the bloke with red flag walks in front of us all again.

Hang on a minute Hillman, at the time of this accident, the van driver was not doing anything actually illegal, so could it be he was one of those twat drivers who are eventually going to have an accident due to the fact they are a fucking idiot, and the circumstances just happen to support the spin wherever you sourced this story from?

What are the stats for people using hands free who haven't caused a serious accidents against people who have?
The silver lining to this however, is maybe if distractions whilst driving is to be made into the new drink driving, they might have a look at all those women with cars full of screaming kids that flood the roads during term time.

Because that's not distracting at all is it?

[Moby Dicky]

Perhaps a better place to start would be with the idiots who think it’s a great idea to have their dog sitting in the passenger seat.

[Zambo]

Perhaps a better place to start would be with the idiots who think it’s a great idea to have their dog sitting in the passenger seat.

And spend the entire journey talking to it.

[Devondevon]

Next legislation:

Drivers can't talk whilst driving

[Zambo]

Next legislation:

Drivers can't talk whilst driving

Only to their dogs, as they can't talk back and confuse the driver.

[subsub]

If you drive from a to b with a passenger aboard, do you carry out the whole journey in silence. I bet you don't unless it's your mother-in-law

[JudgeTedd]

Next legislation:

Drivers can't talk whilst driving

Only to their dogs, as they can't talk back and confuse the driver.

Is it ok for drivers to have the radio on? Because the amount of times I’ve wanted to put my fist through it when talkSport has been on is unreal!!

[Zambo]

Next legislation:

Drivers can't talk whilst driving

Only to their dogs, as they can't talk back and confuse the driver.

Is it ok for drivers to have the radio on? Because the amount of times I’ve wanted to put my fist through it when talkSport has been on is unreal!!

A definite safety hazzard.

[subsub]

Next legislation:

Drivers can't talk whilst driving

Only to their dogs, as they can't talk back and confuse the driver.

Is it ok for drivers to have the radio on? Because the amount of times I’ve wanted to put my fist through it when talkSport has been on is unreal!!