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Roy Twing wrote:
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Ralph wrote:Letting people have a vote on whether they want a no deal Brexit would be a fantastic exercise in democracy. Ploughing ahead with a no deal Brexit without consulting the people would be the opposite.


I don't know if you noticed but we had one, any you lost.

By rights, you shouldn't even have a voice on the matter as, to restate it, - you lost!

Ah, the classic Leaver's retort:
YOU LOST! YOU LOST!

The referendum was only advisory, anyway. Wish you'd understand that.


No it wasn't. There was a distinct promise to implement the result.
Would it have been advisory if remain had won? I don't think so.

But we were already in the EU so that's hardly the same thing.
So we would have stayed the same anyway.


Would Brexiter politicians have 'accepted the result' if they’d lost. Of course not.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics- ... m-36306681

Exactly.


Difference being though, is that if 'remain' won, - they'd have instantly been rewarded with the spoils of their victory, - we've waited more than 3 years without.

Well, we would have just got on with more important things. Nobody gave a shit about the EU 10 years ago.
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subsub wrote:
Roy Twing wrote:
subsub wrote:
Ralph wrote:
subsub wrote:
m4rkb wrote:
subsub wrote:
m4rkb wrote:
Ralph wrote:Letting people have a vote on whether they want a no deal Brexit would be a fantastic exercise in democracy. Ploughing ahead with a no deal Brexit without consulting the people would be the opposite.


I don't know if you noticed but we had one, any you lost.

By rights, you shouldn't even have a voice on the matter as, to restate it, - you lost!

Ah, the classic Leaver's retort:
YOU LOST! YOU LOST!

The referendum was only advisory, anyway. Wish you'd understand that.


No it wasn't. There was a distinct promise to implement the result.
Would it have been advisory if remain had won? I don't think so.

But we were already in the EU so that's hardly the same thing.
So we would have stayed the same anyway.


Would Brexiter politicians have 'accepted the result' if they’d lost. Of course not.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics- ... m-36306681

Exactly.


Difference being though, is that if 'remain' won, - they'd have instantly been rewarded with the spoils of their victory, - we've waited more than 3 years without.

Well, we would have just got on with more important things. Nobody gave a shit about the EU 10 years ago.


10 years??????

More like 5. It was only when MEP Nigel Farage (that’s MEP Nigel Farage!!) piped up and started enjoying the attention he was garnering, that we started to get in this mess.

Lest we forget, it wasn’t long ago the the MP’s expenses scandal was about. Now some people are trusting them to lead us out of the EU and not to line there own pockets.
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Re: Myths

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JudgeTedd wrote:
subsub wrote:
Roy Twing wrote:
subsub wrote:
Ralph wrote:
subsub wrote:
m4rkb wrote:
subsub wrote:
m4rkb wrote:
Ralph wrote:Letting people have a vote on whether they want a no deal Brexit would be a fantastic exercise in democracy. Ploughing ahead with a no deal Brexit without consulting the people would be the opposite.


I don't know if you noticed but we had one, any you lost.

By rights, you shouldn't even have a voice on the matter as, to restate it, - you lost!

Ah, the classic Leaver's retort:
YOU LOST! YOU LOST!

The referendum was only advisory, anyway. Wish you'd understand that.


No it wasn't. There was a distinct promise to implement the result.
Would it have been advisory if remain had won? I don't think so.

But we were already in the EU so that's hardly the same thing.
So we would have stayed the same anyway.


Would Brexiter politicians have 'accepted the result' if they’d lost. Of course not.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics- ... m-36306681

Exactly.


Difference being though, is that if 'remain' won, - they'd have instantly been rewarded with the spoils of their victory, - we've waited more than 3 years without.

Well, we would have just got on with more important things. Nobody gave a shit about the EU 10 years ago.


10 years??????

More like 5. It was only when MEP Nigel Farage (that’s MEP Nigel Farage!!) piped up and started enjoying the attention he was garnering, that we started to get in this mess.

Lest we forget, it wasn’t long ago the the MP’s expenses scandal was about. Now some people are trusting them to lead us out of the EU and not to line there own pockets.

:mrgreen:
I was being generous.
Farage is just a cunt. Happy to take his fat salary from the EU, despite attending fuck-all meetings, then bleating about the EU being a gravy train. He is such a hypocrite.
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subsub wrote:
JudgeTedd wrote:
subsub wrote:
Roy Twing wrote:
subsub wrote:
Ralph wrote:
subsub wrote:
m4rkb wrote:
subsub wrote:
m4rkb wrote:

I don't know if you noticed but we had one, any you lost.

By rights, you shouldn't even have a voice on the matter as, to restate it, - you lost!

Ah, the classic Leaver's retort:
YOU LOST! YOU LOST!

The referendum was only advisory, anyway. Wish you'd understand that.


No it wasn't. There was a distinct promise to implement the result.
Would it have been advisory if remain had won? I don't think so.

But we were already in the EU so that's hardly the same thing.
So we would have stayed the same anyway.


Would Brexiter politicians have 'accepted the result' if they’d lost. Of course not.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics- ... m-36306681

Exactly.


Difference being though, is that if 'remain' won, - they'd have instantly been rewarded with the spoils of their victory, - we've waited more than 3 years without.

Well, we would have just got on with more important things. Nobody gave a shit about the EU 10 years ago.


10 years??????

More like 5. It was only when MEP Nigel Farage (that’s MEP Nigel Farage!!) piped up and started enjoying the attention he was garnering, that we started to get in this mess.

Lest we forget, it wasn’t long ago the the MP’s expenses scandal was about. Now some people are trusting them to lead us out of the EU and not to line there own pockets.

:mrgreen:
I was being generous.
Farage is just a cunt. Happy to take his fat salary from the EU, despite attending fuck-all meetings, then bleating about the EU being a gravy train. He is such a hypocrite.


Making a fortune advocating policies that will permanently damage his own country. At least €30,000 a month just from media work.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... SApp_Other

Farage’s wife and kids have German passports so if there are fuel/food/medicine shortages they can just go on an extended holiday. Surprising (?) the number of Brexit cheerleaders with EU (usually Irish) passports.

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subsub wrote:
Roy Twing wrote:
Difference being though, is that if 'remain' won, - they'd have instantly been rewarded with the spoils of their victory, - we've waited more than 3 years without.

Well, we would have just got on with more important things. Nobody gave a shit about the EU 10 years ago.


Odd that, - UKIP got the 2nd largest share of the vote in the Euro elections 2009.
Anyone (such as Tick) that uses 'gammon' as a racial pejorative is as much a racist as those who use the word nigger and similar pejoratively.
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Roy Twing wrote:
subsub wrote:
Roy Twing wrote:
Difference being though, is that if 'remain' won, - they'd have instantly been rewarded with the spoils of their victory, - we've waited more than 3 years without.

Well, we would have just got on with more important things. Nobody gave a shit about the EU 10 years ago.


Odd that, - UKIP got the 2nd largest share of the vote in the Euro elections 2009.


The turn-out was only 35%. Most people couldn't be bothered.

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VeritasVincit wrote:
Roy Twing wrote:
subsub wrote:
Roy Twing wrote:
Difference being though, is that if 'remain' won, - they'd have instantly been rewarded with the spoils of their victory, - we've waited more than 3 years without.

Well, we would have just got on with more important things. Nobody gave a shit about the EU 10 years ago.


Odd that, - UKIP got the 2nd largest share of the vote in the Euro elections 2009.


The turn-out was only 35%. Most people couldn't be bothered.

Must have been ukips fault :roll:
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VeritasVincit wrote:
Roy Twing wrote:
subsub wrote:
Roy Twing wrote:
Difference being though, is that if 'remain' won, - they'd have instantly been rewarded with the spoils of their victory, - we've waited more than 3 years without.

Well, we would have just got on with more important things. Nobody gave a shit about the EU 10 years ago.


Odd that, - UKIP got the 2nd largest share of the vote in the Euro elections 2009.


The turn-out was only 35%. Most people couldn't be bothered.


Similar turnout to local elections, but the statement was that nobody cared about the EU, - clearly that was untrue.
You could argue that at least 35% of the whole population 'could be bothered'.
Also, we all recall the interest taken in the 2000s over the lisbon treaty, and the forming of the "Better off out" party - again, hardly 'nobody'.
A petition was also presented at parliament for a referendum in 2011.
Anyone (such as Tick) that uses 'gammon' as a racial pejorative is as much a racist as those who use the word nigger and similar pejoratively.
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Wasn't there another remainer myth that the EU hasn't interfered with UK law-making?
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/64889 ... Leave-Gove
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