The Attenborough Show, (part 55)

[kancutlawns]

Phwooooaaaarrrrr!!!!

[Royal24s]

National treasure and media con man David Attenborough is today heading up a new campaign on the State Broadcaster, which is featuring it high up on every truth and information bulletin .
He's saying that this is really our last chance to save the planet because we keep chopping down trees and will therefore run out of oxygen, what with the fact that trees produce all our oxygen etc.
We must act now according to him by reducing carbon dioxide before we all just suffocate.

The graphs and computer games prove it, so who am I to argue, but there is of course one small problem with all this. Trees and green plants can only produce oxygen by using carbon dioxide and sunshine. They'll actually produce it more quickly in higher temperatures of course, but they can't produce it at all without co2.
It's not entirely unreasonable then to think that a reduction of co2 must reduce the production of oxygen by trees, so there's a bit of a problem with this idea really.
Having said this, it might still work if the majority of people agree with it, because science is more to do with concensus than facts in our brave new world isn't it ?

It's all very worrying and scary that a leading tv reporter has reached these ominous conclusions I know, but I suppose we must comfort ourselves with the fact that the the volcano which erupted yesterday in the Phillipines will have produced far more co2 than Britain would in a decade and just do what we can by giving money to politicians and perhaps super glueing ourselves to trains when we have the time.

Growing trees release Oxygen, dead trees release C02

Phytoplankton that live in the ocean are responsible for over half of the world's Oxygen, the ocean temperatures are rising, runoff from fertilisers are causing more nitrates to go into the ocean, corals are bleaching and that in turn affects the ecosystem of the ocean of which phytoplankton are an integral part.

This climate change scenario is a bit like your car heading toward a brick wall, some people say it will kill you. Some say that your car has crumple zones and airbags so hitting the wall isn't as bad as the first people make it out to be, because you'll probably be fine.

Smart people put on the brakes before any of that happens.

I'm not sure whether you're suggesting that we destroy all trees ?
The reason I mentioned trees is what Dishonest Dave said on the subject yesterday - that we'd run out of oxygen because we're cutting trees down, and that's plainly bollocks isn't it ?

You've got to be careful mentioning plankton and oceans in this context you know, because rather like volcanos, as well domestic and wild creatures, not to mention China, they also produce far more CO2 than we do.
If you're trying to argue for climate change you really must keep away from facts and emphasise concensus - all the world leading journalists , film actors and politicians agree you know, not to mention Greta Thunberg and all those frightened schoolchildren.

The car crash story is good in fairness , because it's a plausible series of events in some place where we can't see it going on and we have no reason to disbelieve it when someone describes what's happening. It's not an actual car crash though is it ? There's no car or wall in reality, so we don't need to put the imaginary brakes on to save the imaginary driver.

If we could convince a majority of people that the car crash was real, it would become real to them, and if we got teachers to tell the story to enough kids every day they'd be really upset and scared - so much so that they'd give up their pocket money to save the imaginary driver or reduce the speed limit on the imaginary road.

I'm not accusing you of Huxtering here, by the way. I'm merely pointing out that the argument has been shifted so effectively that figurative dilemmas have become an everyday substitute for logic, just as concensus has replaced REAL evidence and fact as the test of scientific hypotheses.

[Zambo]

Chris Packham has been all over the meeja this week, popping-up in newspapers slagging-off some contestant on Love Island who apparently enjoys shooting animals 'for fun' (one would assume Chris will not be accepting titles from the Royal Family anytime soon). He's another one who does my head-in. Although Britain isn't perfect when it comes to environmental shit, but I like to think we do our bit. I certainly try to. He should fuck off to China and sort them out and leave us alone, I guarantee he'll be given short-shrift as would Attenborough and Greta Whatshername. We're a soft fucking touch in the country and given that TV needs all the content it can get, DA, Packham et al are indulged. Fuck off.

I used to think that Packham was a cunt, but was at the Hampton Court flower show last year, and he gave a talk on the main stage. Totally changed my mind about the bloke. Even when you don't agree with much of what some people say, you have to admire their dedication, commitment and knowledge. He was on the One Show last night, and I never usually watch that, but found myself wanting to listen.

Yes, it's the One Show where I saw him too. That's what prompted my post. I didn't agree with much of what Hitler had to say, but I admired his stand against Fox Hunting. Know what I mean? He's far too belligerent for me to take him seriously, just like Greta. Both of whom are on the spectrum. That's why I cannot wholly take either of them seriously. I do understand their condition to a point, so I do sympathize. But what you call 'dedication, commitment, and knowledge, I call an unhealthy fixation rooted in a psychiatric disorder.

I don't think you can compare Packham with a manipulated teenage environmental activist, who really doesn't have a clue about the modern world. She's just a glove puppet. On the other hand, Packham, has been on the planet just short of 60 years, and has spent most of them studying and gaining personal experience. I doubt whether he is going to change my mind about how we should be handling climate change, but he's definitely worth listening to.

[LaaLaa]

Packham & Attenborough are right about climate change, but people are wrong about the methods required to combat it. Sure you can bust your balls trying to reduce your "carbon footprint", you'll spend more money and inconvenience yourself and you can give yourself a nice pat on the back for being so 'environmental', but it won't mean shit in the long run.

The population is too large : it's that simple.

[Zambo]

The population is too large : it's that simple.

Nutshell.

[Holden Mcgroyne]

BBC1 News At One devoted 12 of its 28 minutes to a load of spurious non-news bollocks about Glasgow's CO2 targets, as part of some massive all-network BBC 'One Planet' initiative, which we were warned about yesterday, and which is apparently going to last for the whole of 2020.

I imagine this means we are going to be force fed maximalist Greta agitprop around the clock at license fee expense, until we are all so sick of it that we decide to start building our own coalfired power stations in our sheds, just to spite them.


By the by; I notice Attenborough is all over the show banging the emergency drum at the mo'. Not saying he's wrong, but have you noticed no-one ever asks him for the full range of his policy prescriptions? He is in favour of huge & borderline-enforced population control, and can get especially animated about out-of-control African birth rates if he is asked. Though funnily enough, the BBC seems to have stopped asking him.

Yes, never mind the coming billions of shag-happy sprog-sprouting sub-Saharan africans whose CO2 emissions & inability to survive unaided we'll soon have to cope with; let's prioritise forcing the UK's mere 65m to eat kale & insects, and to never drive/fly anywhere ever again.

In fact, why don't we over-privileged western whiteys just commit mass suicide as penance for inventing the industrial revolution, and be done with it all? It's what Afua Hirsch would want, so it must be right.

[Hillman avenger]

I love the idea of David Attenborough as a "tv reporter".

By the way you may have seen this woman before

30 years ago.
Pity Nigel Lawson paid less attention to this than he did to damaging our economy.

[Royal24s]

I love the idea of David Attenborough as a "tv reporter".

By the way you may have seen this woman before

30 years ago.
Pity Nigel Lawson paid less attention to this than he did to damaging our economy.

Do you ?

Well that's all he is you know. He was a radio presenter before that , as far back as the Home Service which became R4, always specialising in hammed up wildlife items during the course of which he'd fabricate an attack by a dangerous wild animal
In those days he would do more of a "great white hunter" persona ,in which lions, sharks and polar bears were dangerous evil bastards afflicting the lives of simple natives. His tales of personal derring do were far fetched , but he knew even then how to play to the audience and "tell them what they want to hear".
Being a vacuous bullshitting self publicist with supreme chameleon abilities, he's honed the act over the years, adapting to the market for a compassionate caring sharing attitude to nature and wildlife. In fact, he's gradually given the general impression that he's some kind of eminent biologist or scientist without ever saying so. He did get a degree in geology or something before going into showbusiness, but he's always worked as a presenter / reporter.

He's been caught lying , misrepresenting and faking footage loads of times, but somehow a lot of people are hoodwinked by his image. When they cast David Bellamy ,( who actually was a reputable scientist), adrift for refusing to go along with the climate change bollocks, old smoothie Attenborough was only too happy to step in and play the part of a compassionate scientific type to replace Magnus Pike and David Bellamy in a politically acceptable way.
Would he know the difference between a Faraday cage and a banjo though ? Probably not unless it was in the script . He's the TV evangelist of the new climate change religion, that's all.

[carcinogen]

Daytime TV is bad enough but that shit is just too much to bear. TV clickbait for the mentally impaired.

People do still 'flick' through channels you know. You no doubt live in some weird bubble where you only view or listen to things that you agree with. It's healthy to get all angles. That's why I like this forum, so that I can try to gain a well-rounded view of opinions and weed-out those who are just contrary for the sake of it or have never really had a decent education and simply troll because they are a bit thick. But even trolls have their purpose even if it's only to satiate my morbid curiosity.

[kancutlawns]

You’re just projecting your own lack of intelligence by calling other people who watch the very same programmes as you as being very thick. Why would anyone admit to watching The One Show let alone quote from a it about someone they seem to have seething contempt for?

Yes we know you think Packham, H&M and z lister celebs are all cunts. That you have to read the DM and watch the One Show for congenital cretins to give you a ‘rounded view’ to form those opinions speaks volumes.

[Hillman avenger]

I love the idea of David Attenborough as a "tv reporter".

By the way you may have seen this woman before

30 years ago.
Pity Nigel Lawson paid less attention to this than he did to damaging our economy.

Do you ?

Well that's all he is you know. He was a radio presenter before that , as far back as the Home Service which became R4, always specialising in hammed up wildlife items during the course of which he'd fabricate an attack by a dangerous wild animal
In those days he would do more of a "great white hunter" persona ,in which lions, sharks and polar bears were dangerous evil bastards afflicting the lives of simple natives. His tales of personal derring do were far fetched , but he knew even then how to play to the audience and "tell them what they want to hear".
Being a vacuous bullshitting self publicist with supreme chameleon abilities, he's honed the act over the years, adapting to the market for a compassionate caring sharing attitude to nature and wildlife. In fact, he's gradually given the general impression that he's some kind of eminent biologist or scientist without ever saying so. He did get a degree in geology or something before going into showbusiness, but he's always worked as a presenter / reporter.

He's been caught lying , misrepresenting and faking footage loads of times, but somehow a lot of people are hoodwinked by his image. When they cast David Bellamy ,( who actually was a reputable scientist), adrift for refusing to go along with the climate change bollocks, old smoothie Attenborough was only too happy to step in and play the part of a compassionate scientific type to replace Magnus Pike and David Bellamy in a politically acceptable way.
Would he know the difference between a Faraday cage and a banjo though ? Probably not unless it was in the script . He's the TV evangelist of the new climate change religion, that's all.

Bellamy was not "cast adrift for refusing to go along with the climate change bollocks". He was caught basing his comments on completely debunked data.

[kancutlawns]

Even the BBC themselves said in his obituary that Bellamy was ostracised and thrown under the bus by the media industry for openly decrying climate change. I heard it on the Today programme the day his death was announced.

Either way, it’s lamentable that someone’s livelihood, reputation and passion in life was destroyed because he said something that the mainstream took a dislike to. Out of decency for another human being, is this acceptable to you? It isn’t to me.

[carcinogen]

Why would anyone admit to watching The One Show

Maybe they're comfortable with their decision and not looking to impress anyone who is insecure and trying to 'fit-in' with the 'in-crowd'. I'm not going to argue the point. We all know who the intelligent, qualified, educated people are in this forum.

[kancutlawns]

Why would anyone admit to watching The One Show

Maybe they're comfortable with their decision and not looking to impress anyone who is insecure and trying to 'fit-in' with the 'in-crowd'. I'm not going to argue the point. We all know who the intelligent, qualified, educated people are in this forum.

Sad, lonely inadequates on the fringes of society and needing some solace in knowing there is someone on an even lower ring of the ladder.

[Shedboy]

Only reason to watch The One Show:

And to think Mrs S say she can't understand why I like Alex. I love accent as well.