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Royal24s wrote:
ToRmAtO wrote:
Royal24s wrote:
ToRmAtO wrote:
Hillman avenger wrote:Give me an example of ANY "jihadists coming in through Germany".


Is the answer none, unless there is some village called Germany out in the shires!



Honestly ???
Do you really not know any better than that ?


"Almost 1,000 people have been injured or killed in terrorist attacks fea- turing asylum seekers or refugees since 2014. Over the past four years, 16 percent of Islamist plots in Europe featured asylum seekers or refu- gees. ISIS has direct connections to the majority of plots, with Germa- ny targeted most often, and Syrians more frequently involved than any other nationality. Nearly three-quarters of plotters carry out, or have their plans thwarted, within two years of arrival in Europe. Radical- ization of plotters generally occurred abroad although in the most re- cent plots, more commonly within Europe itself. Europe’s response to migration ows has been inadequate and inadvertently increased the terrorist threat dramatically. European leaders must acknowledge the mistakes of the past and control the refugee ow strictly in the future."


https://www.heritage.org/sites/default/ ... BG3314.pdf


Hillman avenger wrote:Give me an example of ANY "jihadists coming in through Germany".


This is the question, not the one you want to answer in which you didn't even mention the UK



That's what we call " an extract". Did you want me to cut and paste the whole report ?

Your point and question are equally ridiculous since there have been many terrorists who've entered the EU as asylum seekers through Germany and other EU countries then moved on to Britain and been involved in crimes - read the newspapers and court reports.
You talked about "jihadists from Germany". We asked for an example of one in the UK. You have not done that. Now it's "crimes in the UK".

That wouldn't matter though in terms of common sense because it's perfectly obvious that allowing people in from war torn countries afflicted by jihadists and terrorists without proper checks presents a serious danger to the General public.

I honestly don't know whether you're being obtuse or whether you're so remote from the realities and dangers of terrorist attacks that you don't think it's important to take all possible steps to protect the general public.
Oh I think he does. He and I though, are disputing your ignorant remark.
BTW the most recent, and the most serious attack IN GERMANY for ten years, recently, was done by a right-wing extremist a million miles from being a jihadist.
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Okay then . It takes me moments to post here, but you want me to go and find you the name of an individual person in that category which will take my time up.

I'll do that if you will undertake that if I am sucessful ( which I certainly will be), you will admit that the situation represents a danger.

You're just trying to divert or stop the discussion by demanding trivial details .
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Trivial details

Like it happening...
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Royal24s wrote:
Ralph wrote:
paolo wrote:
Ralph wrote:
paolo wrote:
ToRmAtO wrote:
paolo wrote:
ToRmAtO wrote:
Royal24s wrote:He wants me to name a terrorist who got in via EU immigration / asylum policies.

I mean, I could I expect ,but he's trying to sidetrack



Not the EU, ... Give me an example of ANY "jihadists coming in through Germany".


why specifically germany?

surely it must be europe

europe is a porous group of countries, and the point made, yet ignored is that once you're in, you're in, to do whatever you want

entry into europe isn't difficult

i would contend that most muslim terrorists (not the hindu ones or the 7th day adventists) that have committed terrorist crimes in europe have.....entered europe

have they been in germany?

some will have


Because this was the question posed ..
Hillman avenger wrote:Give me an example of ANY "jihadists coming in through Germany".


But do feel free like others to give any old answer to vent your spleen


spleen or no spleen...you've won

it's irreversible

i hope every one of you receives full justice with personl experiences

bring 'em all in

yeah


What’s irreversible?

You’re in danger of sounding like you’re worrying about people’s skin colour.

I’m positive that’s not your intention. Perhaps you could explain more clearly exactly what you mean.


we know what you're trying to do....

is lil lewish all over again

romanians, albanians, turks......shit as a nation.....seem white to me.......

colour doesn't determine how shit you are

but preserving a country and it's identity is paramount to recognising and respecting that country


you have a barrel full of spuds....you add a few sprouts....it's a barrel full of spuds with some decent sprouts

you have a barrel of spuds, and way more sprouts than you have spuds....it aint a barrel of spuds no longer


it's genocide

lose your hang up on colour....work backwards from being british....it's too late anyway, you have what you wanted, it is totally irreversible now

enjoy what you have been responsible for creating


:D

Genocide of who exactly?

If you mean white people say so. If that’s not what you mean, say so.

Come on paolo. Have the bravery of your convictions.

Drop the pidgin english and stop dancing round the issue - just say what you really mean.



If you were to read the books and speeches upon which socialism is based, you'd see that it calls for the destruction of all races - hence the anti semitism in socialist regimes.

More specifically , if you'd read the works of Count Von Kallergi , upon who's ideas the EU is largely based, you'd know that he called for a mass influx of dark skinned Moslems who would create a more easily controlled mixed race "European race".

These are the published intentions of Marx, Engels and Von Kallergi by the way - not anything I made up , so please don't accuse me of racism for quoting them.

"Genocide" need not necessarily mean a group which is defined by skin colour. It can also mean a culture or nation, such as that which presently exists in a country or region. Again , a better understanding of the facts would help before accusing people of racism ,especially when they didn't say it in the first place.


The readers on here know what genocide means. They don't need you to come along and patronise them with your arrogance.

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Royal24s wrote:
Hillman avenger wrote:
Ralph wrote:
paolo wrote:
Ralph wrote:
paolo wrote:
ToRmAtO wrote:
paolo wrote:
ToRmAtO wrote:
Royal24s wrote:He wants me to name a terrorist who got in via EU immigration / asylum policies.

I mean, I could I expect ,but he's trying to sidetrack



Not the EU, ... Give me an example of ANY "jihadists coming in through Germany".


why specifically germany?

surely it must be europe

europe is a porous group of countries, and the point made, yet ignored is that once you're in, you're in, to do whatever you want

entry into europe isn't difficult

i would contend that most muslim terrorists (not the hindu ones or the 7th day adventists) that have committed terrorist crimes in europe have.....entered europe

have they been in germany?

some will have


Because this was the question posed ..
Hillman avenger wrote:Give me an example of ANY "jihadists coming in through Germany".


But do feel free like others to give any old answer to vent your spleen


spleen or no spleen...you've won

it's irreversible

i hope every one of you receives full justice with personl experiences

bring 'em all in

yeah


What’s irreversible?

You’re in danger of sounding like you’re worrying about people’s skin colour.

I’m positive that’s not your intention. Perhaps you could explain more clearly exactly what you mean.


we know what you're trying to do....

is lil lewish all over again

romanians, albanians, turks......shit as a nation.....seem white to me.......

colour doesn't determine how shit you are

but preserving a country and it's identity is paramount to recognising and respecting that country


you have a barrel full of spuds....you add a few sprouts....it's a barrel full of spuds with some decent sprouts

you have a barrel of spuds, and way more sprouts than you have spuds....it aint a barrel of spuds no longer


it's genocide

lose your hang up on colour....work backwards from being british....it's too late anyway, you have what you wanted, it is totally irreversible now

enjoy what you have been responsible for creating


:D

Genocide of who exactly?

If you mean white people say so. If that’s not what you mean, say so.

Come on paolo. Have the bravery of your convictions.

Drop the pidgin english and stop dancing round the issue - just say what you really mean.

He seems to be unable to communicate in properly-constructed sentences.
Perhaps it's for effect.
But he is making a great case to block entry for white males coming from Canada.



White males ?
How do you know what colour he is ?
You know , we can't make assumptions about whole racial groups like that any more. You can't simply ban a whole ethnicity because of some general racial stereotype or prejudice you know .

Paolo has offered enough on here for people to understand his background.
This forum does not need you arrogant, patronising attitude towards other posters.
I shall make the reasonable assumption that you understand that point.

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paolo wrote:
Hillman avenger wrote:Lovely.
A remarkable mixture of prejudice and ignorance.
Jolly well done.
"Respecting democracy"?
Fuck off


which part of what i wrote do you disagree with hillman?


Maybe we could start at - these shit house cockroaches.....
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The Scouse mafia

Plus all these ne’er do wells insistent on bringing the colour of someone skin into it

It won’t work
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paolo wrote:The Scouse mafia

Plus all these ne’er do wells insistent on bringing the colour of someone skin into it

It won’t work


Scouse mafia? Really?

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Royal24s wrote:Okay then . It takes me moments to post here, but you want me to go and find you the name of an individual person in that category which will take my time up.

I'll do that if you will undertake that if I am sucessful ( which I certainly will be), you will admit that the situation represents a danger.

You're just trying to divert or stop the discussion by demanding trivial details .

I am really unsure how to treat you.
I keep making the mistake of assuming you are a mature adult trying to debate an issue.
But then you post stuff which is , frankly, risible.
So then I wonder if you are just having a laugh.
For example, you have recently made posts associating socialism with plots to wipe out large parts of mankind. Using a patently flawed logic to do so.And another where you, apparently seriously, suggest that corona virus might be a deliberate ploy to force vaccination...you know , that evil which has saved millions from death and disability, and which now the feeble-minded are being influenced into rejecting so that we now have the first deaths from measles in decades.
And you follow that up with suggestions that those who do not embrace such nonsense are in some way naive about the world and the evil in it.
Then you tell us how we should admire the utter shambles Trump has predictably made of responding to the virus, which is going to cost a few hundred Americans their lives quite unnecessarily.
Do you expect these posts to be responded to rationally, and courteously?
It's tough
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mark wrote:
paolo wrote:The Scouse mafia

Plus all these ne’er do wells insistent on bringing the colour of someone skin into it

It won’t work


Scouse mafia? Really?

Of course
It's a plot about plots
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Hillman avenger wrote:
Royal24s wrote:Okay then . It takes me moments to post here, but you want me to go and find you the name of an individual person in that category which will take my time up.

I'll do that if you will undertake that if I am sucessful ( which I certainly will be), you will admit that the situation represents a danger.

You're just trying to divert or stop the discussion by demanding trivial details .

I am really unsure how to treat you.
I keep making the mistake of assuming you are a mature adult trying to debate an issue.
But then you post stuff which is , frankly, risible.
So then I wonder if you are just having a laugh.
For example, you have recently made posts associating socialism with plots to wipe out large parts of mankind. Using a patently flawed logic to do so.And another where you, apparently seriously, suggest that corona virus might be a deliberate ploy to force vaccination...you know , that evil which has saved millions from death and disability, and which now the feeble-minded are being influenced into rejecting so that we now have the first deaths from measles in decades.
And you follow that up with suggestions that those who do not embrace such nonsense are in some way naive about the world and the evil in it.
Then you tell us how we should admire the utter shambles Trump has predictably made of responding to the virus, which is going to cost a few hundred Americans their lives quite unnecessarily.
Do you expect these posts to be responded to rationally, and courteously?
It's tough
Tell us if you are just having a laugh, and if you are, you got me. If you are not, you need serious help.

Fuck’s sake, Hillman. He is playing you, I’ve said this many times before. He’s not using abuse but patronising and playing into your psyche as he knows you read, analyse and dissect in all seriousness what he says and will subsequently answer large extracts in bold. Now, you can either a. Ignore what he says and just not reply or b. reply to everything he says and get yourself worked up which won’t really affect Royals as he has the ability to post like a machine.

Remember, it really is only one faceless posters’ views. It’s not worth getting upset and vexed over it. Hold your own views but what you think about the snowflake Brexiteers or Trump really won’t affect a thing.

Hope this helps.

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Of course I know that what we do or don't post aren't going to change anything.
It's about venting as much as anything else.
But for it to have any value there needs to be some understandings between us. I don't mean about content, but about how we play here.
And I really can't work out whether he is trolling or means his stuff seriously . Maybe that's me
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Hillman avenger wrote:Of course I know that what we do or don't post aren't going to change anything.
It's about venting as much as anything else.
But for it to have any value there needs to be some understandings between us. I don't mean about content, but about how we play here.
And I really can't work out whether he is trolling or means his stuff seriously . Maybe that's me


Your venting is always to do with personal nastiness and bullying

You’re not an annual contender for Twat of the year because of your views

It’s because of how you are

Yes you get played all the time but that’s down to you

You’re untouchable as regards discipline and you probably always will be

You have a free pass

Some would say a Scouse pass

If you come here to vent and to bully and to massage your trump obsession, you might need to reassess
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Hillman avenger wrote:Of course I know that what we do or don't post aren't going to change anything.
It's about venting as much as anything else.
But for it to have any value there needs to be some understandings between us. I don't mean about content, but about how we play here.
And I really can't work out whether he is trolling or means his stuff seriously . Maybe that's me



Its certainly not "trolling" Hillman. If I thought for one moment that it upset you then I wouldn't say it. It is true though that my level of seriousness is on a sliding scale so I can understand if it's sometimes hard to tell whether I'm joking or not.

Most of what I write is perfectly true, but I try to incorporate a bit of a sense of humour sometimes too. I might for example make fun of myself sometimes by using some broad cliché, and I most certainly deliberately set you up for amusing comebacks at me ,which you sometimes pick up and use.

This is no more than the conversational tennis I would have with old and respected friends - a far far toned down version in fact, but I have consistently defended you when you come n for unfair treatment.
I think very fondly of you (perhaps as a fellow eccentric in fact), and whilst I do most certainly latch onto your posts, you also do to mine. I've always thought it's rather fun and I often chuckle at your occasional barbs.
You know, I've said here several times that if I had to choose anyone from the anonymous chatters here who I'd guess could be relied upon to help someone who needed it, then it would be you.

Kancutlawns is quite right that I can vomit out copy very quickly and without much effort, and I do that primarily to have and provide a bit of ultimately freindly fun.

I can be serious of course and I frequently am. I don't just say stuff which I don't believe, but I do it in a light hearted way very often.

I really don't like intolerant dogmatic little bullies, that's for certain, but that's in general life, not just here. I was recently taken aback by the comment of an old long standing colleague that I was regarded by everyone as a most honourable man - You see, I never tried to give that impression and I've always tended to be a bit of a "flash monkey" on the surface when dealing with serious matters - the alternative to laughter when faced with some of these things would be unthinkable you see. Anyway, perhaps you mistake this for bad manners or disrespect , but I promise you that this isn't my intention, and if you thought that I apologise.
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paolo wrote:
Hillman avenger wrote:Of course I know that what we do or don't post aren't going to change anything.
It's about venting as much as anything else.
But for it to have any value there needs to be some understandings between us. I don't mean about content, but about how we play here.
And I really can't work out whether he is trolling or means his stuff seriously . Maybe that's me


Your venting is always to do with personal nastiness and bullying

You’re not an annual contender for Twat of the year because of your views

It’s because of how you are

Yes you get played all the time but that’s down to you

You’re untouchable as regards discipline and you probably always will be

You have a free pass

Some would say a Scouse pass

If you come here to vent and to bully and to massage your trump obsession, you might need to reassess



These are reasonable points
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