Dynamo

[antdad]

They suffered terribly , but they did not demand ,or even think about the hero status demanded today by NHS workers or shelf stackers in supermarkets.

A fairly outragious accusation considering what umbrage you've taken over the apparent lack of respect shown here...neither have demanded such status and plenty of frontline NHS workers have died serving your country.

[Eaststand]

you dont need to explain yourself like that.

Everything these madlads did to make sure we were free should be referred to as "we"

FOREVER.

You and i certainly did not do anything in the war.

Don't ever refer to Liverpool as we again then

You never played for them

[shabbado]

you dont need to explain yourself like that.

Everything these madlads did to make sure we were free should be referred to as "we"

FOREVER.

You and i certainly did not do anything in the war.

Don't ever refer to Liverpool as we again then

You never played for them

How do you know?

[Eaststand]

my mistake graeme souness

[shabbado]

my mistake graeme souness

Irrespective it's churlish to compare the use of the word.

[subsub]

Look through the OPs posting history with respect to the war.

What do you think my posting history is with respect to war ?

2nd world war?

You fetishise it.

Is that what you call it ?
It was quite important you know. I'd start listing the part that my relatives took in it and the traumas of growing up in the shadow of those events with the loss in action of eleven close family members , but suffice it to say that I do regard it as worth mentioning - even if you find it tiresome .

Lots of use of the word 'we' when discussing the war.

I doubt you're old enough to have fought or served in any shape or form.

Your posts on the subject tend to look back on those days with a misplaced romanticism.

Why is that?

Well, my late mother, who had the rare gift of speaking French without a trace of an accent was landed in occupied France and later decorated for her work. My late father took part in two defences of Tobruk and El Alamein and was also highly decorated. Two of my uncles were shot down and killed in the RAF and another sunk and drowned by U boat action on the HMS Royal Oak.

Is that what you think is 'romanticised ' ? Cause it's not.

I could go on and mention other family members, but I think a family is entitled to the term "we".

So there we are, I've justified my choice of words, although I did mean " we" as a nation.

I have actually been in the army since you ask, and even though it was a very long time ago, it wasn't during WW2 because not even I'm that old.

The bottom line is that you spoke of the Dunkirk veterans very disrespectfully , which is your choice, and you're trying to justify it.

That's simply not true.

Can you post up the evidence?

What is disrespectful is a matter of opinion. I've given mine, you've given yours and now let's leave it there because it'll just become a slanging match.

No. You simply can't post up an untruth and then attempt to weasel away.

Far from it. I had to exercise some restraint in my language when replying to your post because I found it quite insulting to the memory of those who died.

Now you accuse me of dishonesty and cowardice, which is also insulting.

What happens next if I respond in kind is a big slanging match which ends up going nowhere.

If you want to carry on name calling that's up to you . I'm not going to bother.

The fact is you've accused Shab of something which you cannot back up because he never said it.
And now you're giving it all the faux outrage because you've been caught out.
You'd be better off just admitting it, then moving on (hey, just like Dominic Cummings!)

[Eaststand]

my mistake graeme souness

Irrespective it's churlish to compare the use of the word.

no its not, I will always refer to them as we.

We as country, its a great part of our history, theres nothing wrong with being proud of these madlads.

[shabbado]

my mistake graeme souness

Irrespective it's churlish to compare the use of the word.

no its not, I will always refer to them as we.

We as country, its a great part of our history, theres nothing wrong with being proud of these madlads.

And again with the strawman

Who said that we shouldn't be proud of those who served and sacrificed so much in the second world war?

You and your cohorts have been triggered beyond belief in this thread. Throwing around all sorts of accusations and strawman arguments. Unable to article your impotent rage.

It's pretty funny.

I standby my original sentiment. Some people don't want that war to end.

Why is that?

[Eaststand]

good lord.

Pretending to be stupid is alive and well.

[Zambo]

Eastie, Shabs, Subs, Royals, please chill.

[shabbado]

I notice you're continuing to shy away from answering my question.

[Eaststand]

see my last post as an all encompassing summation.

And now weve got to chill.

[shabbado]

Eastie, Shabs, Subs, Royals, please chill.

We are.

It's a good natured discussion.

Very little, if any, name calling or bad language.

Nothing against the forum rules

[shabbado]

see my last post as an all encompassing summation.

And now weve got to chill.

We are chill.

There's nothing other than a good natured debate and discussion taking place here.

[Eaststand]

The entire country, aside from you apparently, says "we won WW2"

Theres no debate here. Its over.