Ex Tory Minister

[Holden Mcgroyne]

"[Mr Spencer's] defence today that he can't name the MP because it would identify me is rubbish. I didn't work for this MP and in any case I have lifelong anonymity so there is no risk of me being 'outed' in the press."

You could be mistaken for thinking she's more interested in having him outed than having him prosecuted.

[Vespa]

"[Mr Spencer's] defence today that he can't name the MP because it would identify me is rubbish. I didn't work for this MP and in any case I have lifelong anonymity so there is no risk of me being 'outed' in the press."

You could be mistaken for thinking she's more interested in having him outed than having him prosecuted.

Maybe she's just angry they tried to cover it up?

[Holden Mcgroyne]

"[Mr Spencer's] defence today that he can't name the MP because it would identify me is rubbish. I didn't work for this MP and in any case I have lifelong anonymity so there is no risk of me being 'outed' in the press."

You could be mistaken for thinking she's more interested in having him outed than having him prosecuted.

Maybe she's just angry they tried to cover it up?

Quite possibly

She wouldn't be the first female who tried to ruin an ex lovers career by making up a false allegation when he tried to end the relationship.

She also wouldn't be the first vulnerable female taken advantage of by a predatory male in a senior role.

It's surely more important that justice is done than a career ruined (which it will be whether he's guilty or not) by some politically motivated witch hunt to out him

[Robert Heenan]

Pele?

Honestly.. If i saw him walking alone in Wilmslow or elsewhere.... Id struggle not to run up and do a flying kick right in his back

[Vespa]

"[Mr Spencer's] defence today that he can't name the MP because it would identify me is rubbish. I didn't work for this MP and in any case I have lifelong anonymity so there is no risk of me being 'outed' in the press."

You could be mistaken for thinking she's more interested in having him outed than having him prosecuted.

Maybe she's just angry they tried to cover it up?

Quite possibly

She wouldn't be the first female who tried to ruin an ex lovers career by making up a false allegation when he tried to end the relationship.

She also wouldn't be the first vulnerable female taken advantage of by a predatory male in a senior role.

It's surely more important that justice is done than a career ruined (which it will be whether he's guilty or not) by some politically motivated witch hunt to out him

I don't care if they name him or not. The real scandal is how the Tory party has handled it.

[Holden Mcgroyne]

"[Mr Spencer's] defence today that he can't name the MP because it would identify me is rubbish. I didn't work for this MP and in any case I have lifelong anonymity so there is no risk of me being 'outed' in the press."

You could be mistaken for thinking she's more interested in having him outed than having him prosecuted.

Maybe she's just angry they tried to cover it up?

Quite possibly

She wouldn't be the first female who tried to ruin an ex lovers career by making up a false allegation when he tried to end the relationship.

She also wouldn't be the first vulnerable female taken advantage of by a predatory male in a senior role.

It's surely more important that justice is done than a career ruined (which it will be whether he's guilty or not) by some politically motivated witch hunt to out him

I don't care if they name him or not. The real scandal is how the Tory party has handled it.

The Tory party aren't the judge,jury and executioner.

If she thinks she was raped, she should have gone straight to the police. What did she think the Tory party were going do to do to make things right for her ?

It's 2020 not 1920.

[Eaststand]

money probably

[shivah]

Bit suspicious how his Twitter and Facebook accounts were deleted on Sunday. Is that even legal? Seems like it might be an attempt to destroy evidence anyway, who knows what skeletons were in those digital closets.

He never had a Twitter account and his FB accounts are still up.

I take it it's Penfold we are discussing here?

[Vespa]

"[Mr Spencer's] defence today that he can't name the MP because it would identify me is rubbish. I didn't work for this MP and in any case I have lifelong anonymity so there is no risk of me being 'outed' in the press."

You could be mistaken for thinking she's more interested in having him outed than having him prosecuted.

Maybe she's just angry they tried to cover it up?

Quite possibly

She wouldn't be the first female who tried to ruin an ex lovers career by making up a false allegation when he tried to end the relationship.

She also wouldn't be the first vulnerable female taken advantage of by a predatory male in a senior role.

It's surely more important that justice is done than a career ruined (which it will be whether he's guilty or not) by some politically motivated witch hunt to out him

I don't care if they name him or not. The real scandal is how the Tory party has handled it.

The Tory party aren't the judge,jury and executioner.

If she thinks she was raped, she should have gone straight to the police. What did she think the Tory party were going do to do to make things right for her ?

It's 2020 not 1920.

We've no idea what conversations happened between them all, we do know given the chance to do the right thing the Tory party decided to cover it up.

[birdie]

"[Mr Spencer's] defence today that he can't name the MP because it would identify me is rubbish. I didn't work for this MP and in any case I have lifelong anonymity so there is no risk of me being 'outed' in the press."

You could be mistaken for thinking she's more interested in having him outed than having him prosecuted.

Maybe she's just angry they tried to cover it up?

Quite possibly

She wouldn't be the first female who tried to ruin an ex lovers career by making up a false allegation when he tried to end the relationship.

She also wouldn't be the first vulnerable female taken advantage of by a predatory male in a senior role.

It's surely more important that justice is done than a career ruined (which it will be whether he's guilty or not) by some politically motivated witch hunt to out him

I don't care if they name him or not. The real scandal is how the Tory party has handled it.

Do you suppose that any of the other party's would have marched him straight down to the nearest cop shop, Broadway is the nearest I think, did Corbyn take the Whip away from all those named in that report mentioned a few posts earlier?

[Eaststand]

if she didnt go to the police, there was no crime.

Simple.

[birdie]

"[Mr Spencer's] defence today that he can't name the MP because it would identify me is rubbish. I didn't work for this MP and in any case I have lifelong anonymity so there is no risk of me being 'outed' in the press."

You could be mistaken for thinking she's more interested in having him outed than having him prosecuted.

Maybe she's just angry they tried to cover it up?

Quite possibly

She wouldn't be the first female who tried to ruin an ex lovers career by making up a false allegation when he tried to end the relationship.

She also wouldn't be the first vulnerable female taken advantage of by a predatory male in a senior role.

It's surely more important that justice is done than a career ruined (which it will be whether he's guilty or not) by some politically motivated witch hunt to out him

I don't care if they name him or not. The real scandal is how the Tory party has handled it.

The Tory party aren't the judge,jury and executioner.

If she thinks she was raped, she should have gone straight to the police. What did she think the Tory party were going do to do to make things right for her ?

It's 2020 not 1920.

Totally agree, the Tory party did what any other Party would have done to avoid a public scandal, told the bloke he was a bloody fool to shit on his own doorstep and not to do it again. If she was so traumatised she had to go to hospital the hospital will have a record of it, and would have asked her consent to report it to the police, as no report to plod seems to have been made (otherwise he would have been arrested, one would have thought) you have to ask, why not.

[birdie]

"[Mr Spencer's] defence today that he can't name the MP because it would identify me is rubbish. I didn't work for this MP and in any case I have lifelong anonymity so there is no risk of me being 'outed' in the press."

You could be mistaken for thinking she's more interested in having him outed than having him prosecuted.

Maybe she's just angry they tried to cover it up?

Quite possibly

She wouldn't be the first female who tried to ruin an ex lovers career by making up a false allegation when he tried to end the relationship.

She also wouldn't be the first vulnerable female taken advantage of by a predatory male in a senior role.

It's surely more important that justice is done than a career ruined (which it will be whether he's guilty or not) by some politically motivated witch hunt to out him

I don't care if they name him or not. The real scandal is how the Tory party has handled it.

The Tory party aren't the judge,jury and executioner.

If she thinks she was raped, she should have gone straight to the police. What did she think the Tory party were going do to do to make things right for her ?

It's 2020 not 1920.

We've no idea what conversations happened between them all, we do know given the chance to do the right thing the Tory party decided to cover it up.

As, I'm willing to bet, would any other Party, don't tell me you believe that the other party's would have called plod straight away.

[Vespa]

As, I'm willing to bet, would any other Party, don't tell me you believe that the other party's would have called plod straight away.

Sadly I think they would try and cover it up as well. However, that doesn't excuse the Tory party, whose government policy is sexual assault victims should report the crimes to the police ASAP, tried to cover it up.

It's interesting to see suggestions that the alleged victim is somehow in the wrong for not reporting being assaulted by one of the most powerful men in the country to the police and instead of hoping her employers would help her. Classic gaslighting.

[birdie]

As, I'm willing to bet, would any other Party, don't tell me you believe that the other party's would have called plod straight away.

Sadly I think they would try and cover it up as well. However, that doesn't excuse the Tory party, whose government policy is sexual assault victims should report the crimes to the police ASAP, tried to cover it up.

It's interesting to see suggestions that the alleged victim is somehow in the wrong for not reporting being assaulted by one of the most powerful men in the country to the police and instead of hoping her employers would help her. Classic gaslighting.

What did she expect her employers to do? I don't know who the bloke is, but I read one report which said that she had been 'in a relationship' with him so that doesn't make it as black and white as it seems at first. No employer is going to take action against what could be described as 'a domestic' and not in the workplace itself, and it seems that she first spoke to another MP who then approached the Chief Whip, it seems that she didn't complain herself so it poses the question, why didn't she approach the Chief Whip herself.