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Holden Mcgroyne wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:45 am Serious question.

Has there been a story of an actual family who claim to have starving kids ? One that details exactly how much they receive in income/benefits/credits and a break down of how they spend it ?

That's a pretty desperate way to dismiss and evade the matter.

Any family heirlooms and material gains made in the good times will now have to be pawned to get the grain too, I suppose?

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paolo wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:25 am So many folks spitting out sprigs on the understanding that someone else will pay

Reintroduce work houses

No cash for families, just no name brand resources

They’re too comfortable
Build the workhouses, employ managers, staff, organise work for them to do.

Vastly more expensive than free school meals in the holidays until next summer.

Or Easier just to increase Universal Credit by an extra 20 quid or so a week. It’ll soon get spent given the increases in food prices after we leave the EU
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The Tick wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:02 am
Holden Mcgroyne wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:45 am Serious question.

Has there been a story of an actual family who claim to have starving kids ? One that details exactly how much they receive in income/benefits/credits and a break down of how they spend it ?

That's a pretty desperate way to dismiss and evade the matter.

Any family heirlooms and material gains made in the good times will now have to be pawned to get the grain too, I suppose?

So none then.
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Holden Mcgroyne wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:20 am
The Tick wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:02 am
Holden Mcgroyne wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:45 am Serious question.

Has there been a story of an actual family who claim to have starving kids ? One that details exactly how much they receive in income/benefits/credits and a break down of how they spend it ?

That's a pretty desperate way to dismiss and evade the matter.

Any family heirlooms and material gains made in the good times will now have to be pawned to get the grain too, I suppose?

So none then.
I'm sure there are cases from reliable sources to be read out on the internet if you are so intent on clutching straws.

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The goal's open, just one story that shows how much a family with 'starving kids' receives and the budget of what they spend.

Tap it in.
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Holden Mcgroyne wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:03 am The goal's open, just one story that shows how much a family with 'starving kids' receives and the budget of what they spend.

Tap it in.
Are you denying food poverty exists?

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I'm asking for a few facts Vespa to back up the fact that 'food poverty' (whichever definition is used) is the fault of the government

A link that shows incomings and outgoings of families in 'food poverty' would be helpful.
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Holden Mcgroyne wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:03 am The goal's open, just one story that shows how much a family with 'starving kids' receives and the budget of what they spend.

Tap it in.
There are enough for you to find. Whether they satisfy your arbitrary and narrow definitions of poverty is for you to determine.

Using that as a get out clause against the suggestion of alleviating child poverty exposes a very harmful agenda on part of the naysayers.

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Holden Mcgroyne wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:50 am I'm asking for a few facts Vespa to back up the fact that 'food poverty' (whichever definition is used) is the fault of the government

A link that shows incomings and outgoings of families in 'food poverty' would be helpful.
The government has categorised 1.4 million children as living in food poverty and require governmental support.

The ask is that as these children's families are suffering hardship that the government extend the subsidised meals during the holidays, in the same spirit they are giving McDonald's millions of pounds of taxpayers money to support their business.

The government agreed to do this over the summer schools holidays because they recognised that the case for support during school holidays was valid.

They've now decided that the case for the same support over winter isn't valid, although they can't explain why.

I don't think the bar for better support for families the government already agree are in food poverty should be pictures of emaciated children.

The real question is why were the government happy to do this in the summer and not the winter?

I suspect they'll end doing it.

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The Tick wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:55 am
Holden Mcgroyne wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:03 am The goal's open, just one story that shows how much a family with 'starving kids' receives and the budget of what they spend.

Tap it in.
There are enough for you to find. Whether they satisfy your arbitrary and narrow definitions of poverty is for you to determine.

Using that as a get out clause against the suggestion of alleviating child poverty exposes a very harmful agenda on part of the naysayers.
So not a single example.

Case closed.
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Holden Mcgroyne wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:35 pm
The Tick wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:55 am
Holden Mcgroyne wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:03 am The goal's open, just one story that shows how much a family with 'starving kids' receives and the budget of what they spend.

Tap it in.
There are enough for you to find. Whether they satisfy your arbitrary and narrow definitions of poverty is for you to determine.

Using that as a get out clause against the suggestion of alleviating child poverty exposes a very harmful agenda on part of the naysayers.
So not a single example.

Case closed.
Far from it.

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Holden Mcgroyne wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:35 pm
The Tick wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:55 am
Holden Mcgroyne wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:03 am The goal's open, just one story that shows how much a family with 'starving kids' receives and the budget of what they spend.

Tap it in.
There are enough for you to find. Whether they satisfy your arbitrary and narrow definitions of poverty is for you to determine.

Using that as a get out clause against the suggestion of alleviating child poverty exposes a very harmful agenda on part of the naysayers.
So not a single example.

Case closed.
Time to end all free school meals, no one has starved to death after all.

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Holden Mcgroyne wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:35 pm
The Tick wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:55 am
Holden Mcgroyne wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:03 am The goal's open, just one story that shows how much a family with 'starving kids' receives and the budget of what they spend.

Tap it in.
There are enough for you to find. Whether they satisfy your arbitrary and narrow definitions of poverty is for you to determine.

Using that as a get out clause against the suggestion of alleviating child poverty exposes a very harmful agenda on part of the naysayers.
So not a single example.

Case closed.

Doesn't matter who's "fault" it is.

At the end of the day,no child in the uk in 2020 should be without enough food to eat.
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Sid Pervcat wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:14 pm
Holden Mcgroyne wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:35 pm
The Tick wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:55 am
Holden Mcgroyne wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:03 am The goal's open, just one story that shows how much a family with 'starving kids' receives and the budget of what they spend.

Tap it in.
There are enough for you to find. Whether they satisfy your arbitrary and narrow definitions of poverty is for you to determine.

Using that as a get out clause against the suggestion of alleviating child poverty exposes a very harmful agenda on part of the naysayers.
So not a single example.

Case closed.

Doesn't matter who's "fault" it is.

At the end of the day,no child in the uk in 2020 should be without enough food to eat.
Unless they own a mobile phone, evidently.

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Alex Young, Howard Kendall, Andy King, Timmy Cahill, Dixie Dean and Mike Parry.....we'll never see the likes of them again.

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