How dare you use reasoned argument backed up by logic and fact. You’ll be accused of bullying posters off the forum next.Hillman avenger wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:34 am You are really wetting your pants today, aren't you?
It would be great if you and the other conspiracy geeks did your homework first, which would save you from being so easily confused.
"Coronavirus" is the generic name for a family of viruses first identified in 1965. Covid 19 ( coronavirus of 2019-geddit?) is the latest. So it's hardly surprising that the term was used before, or that people would be working on anticipated future episodes.
It's both hilarious and sad that you now get so excited about these people saying years ago that this would come. That's exactly the point...and nobody listened. Obama did in 2016 which was why he set up a virus management system of course later ignored by the orange oaf. We also predicted such a thing in 2018 and did the square root of fuck all about it.
They wouldn't be terribly impressive terrorists, would they, if they somehow planned to do this years ago, THEN TOLD EVERYBODY.
As to the origin, the odds still are on the bats-animals-human transference, but even if it was engineered and even then if it was deliberately released, that has zero to do with the appalling negligence with which it has been dealt with, and the US as a pesky interference in getting re-elected.
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/rainerzite ... fa9f732283
There is a true irony in that people who went to the trouble of warning us years ago, but who were ignored , now get blamed for it happening.
I'd love to see the ops room for QAnon. Of course there would be many computers, one of which shows the constantly rising bank balance, and on the wall the motto "Remember our followers are dim but easily excited..try to ensure everything you pump out has some reference to Gates, Soros or jews generally..keep it coming". I wonder how they are dealing with the likelihood of the saviour Trump being shown the door? I understand the various militia groups are in increased readiness ....
There is a true irony in that people who went to the trouble of warning us years ago, but who were ignored , now get blamed for it happening.
I'd love to see the ops room for QAnon. Of course there would be many computers, one of which shows the constantly rising bank balance, and on the wall the motto "Remember our followers are dim but easily excited..try to ensure everything you pump out has some reference to Gates, Soros or jews generally..keep it coming". I wonder how they are dealing with the likelihood of the saviour Trump being shown the door? I understand the various militia groups are in increased readiness ....
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Tweeted by Biden 25 OCTOBER 2019
We are not prepared for a pandemic. Trump has rolled back progress President Obama and I made to strengthen global health security. We need leadership that builds public trust, focuses on real threats, and mobilizes the world to stop outbreaks before they reach our shores.
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None of these 195 countries — the U.S. included — is fully prepared for a pandemic, report says https://wapo.st/361AXE3
We are not prepared for a pandemic. Trump has rolled back progress President Obama and I made to strengthen global health security. We need leadership that builds public trust, focuses on real threats, and mobilizes the world to stop outbreaks before they reach our shores.
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None of these 195 countries — the U.S. included — is fully prepared for a pandemic, report says https://wapo.st/361AXE3
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Richard Rothschild has been a serial patents applicant over the last few years with a concerning number of applications linking payments, advertising and biometric data. However his Covid-19 related application is dated 17 May 2020.
https://patents.justia.com/inventor/ric ... rothschild
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We are not prepared for a pandemic. Trump has rolled back progress President Obama and I made to strengthen global health security. We need leadership that builds public trust, focuses on real threats, and mobilizes the world to stop outbreaks before they reach our shores.
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None of these 195 countries — the U.S. included — is fully prepared for a pandemic, report says https://wapo.st/361AXE3
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None of these 195 countries — the U.S. included — is fully prepared for a pandemic, report says https://wapo.st/361AXE3
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Could you provide the patent number and issuing authority, please?
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Will do, just give me a week or two ....
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They take existing viruses and ‘weaponize’ them, meaning they make them far more dangerous, to be used as a biological weapon. In the following two minute video clip you see a spokesperson for the Trump administration, bioweapon expert Dr. Francis Boyle and president Trump talk about how this virus came from the lab in Wuhan.
NOW COMES THE INTERESTING PART: IN 2015 ANTHONY FAUCI GAVE THIS VERY LAB 3,7 MILLION DOLLARS.
Figure this: the same man who guaranteed a surprise outbreak of a virus in the next two years, gave almost 4 million dollars to a lab that develops coronaviruses. In the short clip below you can see a journalist ask president Trump about this grant given by Fauci to the Wuhan lab.
There are however more options in Wuhan where this virus could have originated from. Some believe it came from the Wuhan Virology Institute, where they also work on weaponizing coronaviruses.
NOW COMES THE INTERESTING PART: IN 2015 ANTHONY FAUCI GAVE THIS VERY LAB 3,7 MILLION DOLLARS.
Figure this: the same man who guaranteed a surprise outbreak of a virus in the next two years, gave almost 4 million dollars to a lab that develops coronaviruses. In the short clip below you can see a journalist ask president Trump about this grant given by Fauci to the Wuhan lab.
There are however more options in Wuhan where this virus could have originated from. Some believe it came from the Wuhan Virology Institute, where they also work on weaponizing coronaviruses.
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https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2 ... u/#sources
A Facebook post alerted readers to this "breaking news":
"President Trump just announced that the ‘biological’ lab in Wuhan where the COVID-19 virus was created was ‘funded’ by President Barak (sp) Hussein Obama in 2015 to the tune of $3,800,000 American dollars! This fact directly links Obama to all 150,000 deaths around the world!"
A different post makes a similar point: "Well well well, in 2015 Obama gave the Chinese lab in Wuhan 3.7M grant to study the corona virus what a coincidence."
The first post builds on the conspiracy theory that the Wuhan Institute of Virology in China created the virus.
It was flagged as part of Facebook’s efforts to combat false news and misinformation on its News Feed. (Read more about our partnership with Facebook.)
There’s nothing correct in this post, although President Donald Trump does play a supporting role in spreading some of the inaccurate information at the heart of the claim.
The lab was funded by Obama "in 2015 to the tune of $3,800,000 American dollars!"
The correct amount sent to the Wuhan virology lab is $598,500, and that was spread over five years, according to the American research group running the project.
Here’s what we know about the lab, that work and the U.S. funding.
In 2014, the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease backed a project by the EcoHealth Alliance, a nonprofit that aims to protect the people, land and animals in areas where viruses can jump from one species to another, as coronaviruses are known to do. The alliance has projects across 30 countries, including many in Asia, such as Thailand, Vietnam and China.
The 2014 project focused on bats in Yunnan province, about 800 miles southwest from Wuhan, on the border with Vietnam, Laos and Myanmar. In 2018, alliance researchers reported they had found a virus in bats very similar to SARS.
"If we know what viruses are out there in wildlife, and which people are getting infected, we have a chance to stop pandemics dead in their tracks," the group’s president Peter Daszak said in a press release at the time.
The group contracted the virology lab in Wuhan to conduct the genetic analyses of the viruses that were being collected in the field. The lab was selected after it was approved by the U.S. State Department and NIH.
The National Institutes of Health website shows a total award of about $3.4 million over six years to EcoHealth Alliance. The group’s spokesman Robert Kessler told us that, of that, the Wuhan lab received just under $600,000.
That’s about 85% less than the Facebook post asserted.
That NIH spending included about $265,000 for the lab under the Trump administration. In 2019, NIH renewed the grant to EcoHealth Alliance for another five years. That decision came on Trump’s watch and he said "we will end that grant very quickly."
- A virology lab in Wuhan received about $600,000 over five years from the U.S. government. Some of the money came while Trump was president. The grant was part of an effort to spot viruses in wildlife that might jump and infect humans.
- The best genetic analysis to date says the virus that causes COVID-19 was not created in a lab.
A Facebook post alerted readers to this "breaking news":
"President Trump just announced that the ‘biological’ lab in Wuhan where the COVID-19 virus was created was ‘funded’ by President Barak (sp) Hussein Obama in 2015 to the tune of $3,800,000 American dollars! This fact directly links Obama to all 150,000 deaths around the world!"
A different post makes a similar point: "Well well well, in 2015 Obama gave the Chinese lab in Wuhan 3.7M grant to study the corona virus what a coincidence."
The first post builds on the conspiracy theory that the Wuhan Institute of Virology in China created the virus.
It was flagged as part of Facebook’s efforts to combat false news and misinformation on its News Feed. (Read more about our partnership with Facebook.)
There’s nothing correct in this post, although President Donald Trump does play a supporting role in spreading some of the inaccurate information at the heart of the claim.
The lab was funded by Obama "in 2015 to the tune of $3,800,000 American dollars!"
The correct amount sent to the Wuhan virology lab is $598,500, and that was spread over five years, according to the American research group running the project.
Here’s what we know about the lab, that work and the U.S. funding.
In 2014, the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease backed a project by the EcoHealth Alliance, a nonprofit that aims to protect the people, land and animals in areas where viruses can jump from one species to another, as coronaviruses are known to do. The alliance has projects across 30 countries, including many in Asia, such as Thailand, Vietnam and China.
The 2014 project focused on bats in Yunnan province, about 800 miles southwest from Wuhan, on the border with Vietnam, Laos and Myanmar. In 2018, alliance researchers reported they had found a virus in bats very similar to SARS.
"If we know what viruses are out there in wildlife, and which people are getting infected, we have a chance to stop pandemics dead in their tracks," the group’s president Peter Daszak said in a press release at the time.
The group contracted the virology lab in Wuhan to conduct the genetic analyses of the viruses that were being collected in the field. The lab was selected after it was approved by the U.S. State Department and NIH.
The National Institutes of Health website shows a total award of about $3.4 million over six years to EcoHealth Alliance. The group’s spokesman Robert Kessler told us that, of that, the Wuhan lab received just under $600,000.
That’s about 85% less than the Facebook post asserted.
That NIH spending included about $265,000 for the lab under the Trump administration. In 2019, NIH renewed the grant to EcoHealth Alliance for another five years. That decision came on Trump’s watch and he said "we will end that grant very quickly."
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It is currently in application status, as of May 2020 - https://patents.justia.com/patent/20200279585
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That's not the 2015 mentioned in the OP post and isn't in the Netherlands.mark wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 1:43 amIt is currently in application status, as of May 2020 - https://patents.justia.com/patent/20200279585
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If you're suggesting that Covid was man-made in order to wipe out sections of the population than that's madness. The population of the world is estimated to be at least 8 billion if not more. 30 millon would be a drop in the ocean.
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The world is overpopulated but it has nothing to do with the amount of space. It's all to to with the infrastructure the human race has built in order to survive, industry, the factories, food production, power stations, etc. It's that infrastructure that's causing the global warming.
Yes there's plenty of room to build cities to house billions more people but you'd need to build the infrastructure too, and that's the problem.
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This is normal.mark wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 1:41 am https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2 ... u/#sources
- A virology lab in Wuhan received about $600,000 over five years from the U.S. government. Some of the money came while Trump was president. The grant was part of an effort to spot viruses in wildlife that might jump and infect humans.
- The best genetic analysis to date says the virus that causes COVID-19 was not created in a lab.
A Facebook post alerted readers to this "breaking news":
"President Trump just announced that the ‘biological’ lab in Wuhan where the COVID-19 virus was created was ‘funded’ by President Barak (sp) Hussein Obama in 2015 to the tune of $3,800,000 American dollars! This fact directly links Obama to all 150,000 deaths around the world!"
A different post makes a similar point: "Well well well, in 2015 Obama gave the Chinese lab in Wuhan 3.7M grant to study the corona virus what a coincidence."
The first post builds on the conspiracy theory that the Wuhan Institute of Virology in China created the virus.
It was flagged as part of Facebook’s efforts to combat false news and misinformation on its News Feed. (Read more about our partnership with Facebook.)
There’s nothing correct in this post, although President Donald Trump does play a supporting role in spreading some of the inaccurate information at the heart of the claim.
The lab was funded by Obama "in 2015 to the tune of $3,800,000 American dollars!"
The correct amount sent to the Wuhan virology lab is $598,500, and that was spread over five years, according to the American research group running the project.
Here’s what we know about the lab, that work and the U.S. funding.
In 2014, the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease backed a project by the EcoHealth Alliance, a nonprofit that aims to protect the people, land and animals in areas where viruses can jump from one species to another, as coronaviruses are known to do. The alliance has projects across 30 countries, including many in Asia, such as Thailand, Vietnam and China.
The 2014 project focused on bats in Yunnan province, about 800 miles southwest from Wuhan, on the border with Vietnam, Laos and Myanmar. In 2018, alliance researchers reported they had found a virus in bats very similar to SARS.
"If we know what viruses are out there in wildlife, and which people are getting infected, we have a chance to stop pandemics dead in their tracks," the group’s president Peter Daszak said in a press release at the time.
The group contracted the virology lab in Wuhan to conduct the genetic analyses of the viruses that were being collected in the field. The lab was selected after it was approved by the U.S. State Department and NIH.
The National Institutes of Health website shows a total award of about $3.4 million over six years to EcoHealth Alliance. The group’s spokesman Robert Kessler told us that, of that, the Wuhan lab received just under $600,000.
That’s about 85% less than the Facebook post asserted.
That NIH spending included about $265,000 for the lab under the Trump administration. In 2019, NIH renewed the grant to EcoHealth Alliance for another five years. That decision came on Trump’s watch and he said "we will end that grant very quickly."
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One and same, simply shit and lies being shared online - https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-factc ... SKBN27C34OVespa wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 1:32 pmThat's not the 2015 mentioned in the OP post and isn't in the Netherlands.mark wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 1:43 amIt is currently in application status, as of May 2020 - https://patents.justia.com/patent/20200279585