Harvey Weinstein

[The Tick]

Speak up at the time or keep your trap shut. We all know why they didn't make the accusations when they were supposed to have happened, and that was their choice. So it should be tough titty now.

Speaking up is tough when you have a powerful Hollywood mogul to contend with. As we see with the victim blaming going on this thread, which is a microcosm of the victim blaming that goes on in society and at institutional levels. Victims should speak out at the time of assault, but for many reasons they are too fearful to do so.

The actresses that stood up to Weinstein saw their careers ruined. It is only just that he now faces the same humiliation himself.

Yeah I realise the pressure and temptation, but at the end of the day the choice is responsibility or irresponsibility. You either report a criminal offence, and possibly save hundreds of other women from having to go through the same humiliation and risk not getting gigs, or you say fuck everyone else and hold onto the information until someone else speaks up and then jump on the bandwagon for more goodies.

And this makes them complicit in the abuse because they did nothing at the time and can be accused of profiteering from what went on to further their own careers imho. No one emerges with any credit from this.

yes if a woman doesn’t report an assault straight away it’s all her fault if the predator strikes again. Victim blaming strikes again.

[kancutlawns]

But hang on, you seem to already made up your mind about Weinstein regardless that his accusers said he's been up to this for decades and are happy that he's being hung out to dry without facing a single accusation in a court of law. So obviously it's all academic to you regardless of the women sitting on their hands until it was convenient and in THEIR own interests to come out. It does lead one to question what they're getting out of it and why wait until now. Hundreds of accusers, why now and not say a few years ago?

[Zambo]

Speak up at the time or keep your trap shut. We all know why they didn't make the accusations when they were supposed to have happened, and that was their choice. So it should be tough titty now.

Speaking up is tough when you have a powerful Hollywood mogul to contend with. As we see with the victim blaming going on this thread, which is a microcosm of the victim blaming that goes on in society and at institutional levels. Victims should speak out at the time of assault, but for many reasons they are too fearful to do so.

The actresses that stood up to Weinstein saw their careers ruined. It is only just that he now faces the same humiliation himself.

Yeah I realise the pressure and temptation, but at the end of the day the choice is responsibility or irresponsibility. You either report a criminal offence, and possibly save hundreds of other women from having to go through the same humiliation and risk not getting gigs, or you say fuck everyone else and hold onto the information until someone else speaks up and then jump on the bandwagon for more goodies.

And this makes them complicit in the abuse because they did nothing at the time and can be accused of profiteering from what went on to further their own careers imho. No one emerges with any credit from this.

yes if a woman doesn’t report an assault straight away it’s all her fault if the predator strikes again. Victim blaming strikes again.

No one is saying that. Guilty predators should feel the full force of the law, but victims need to step to their responsibility, and they need to speak out for the protection of others.

[Eaststand]

people like the tick believe what suits their agenda.

A disturbingly more common trait as people try to push propaganda at every turn. Its an increasingly desperate effort to keep the public subserviant. Be scared everything you do will land you in jail. Dont talk to anyone lest you end up in jail. Go about doing what youre paid a meagre amount to do and be a good little boy or girl or DID YOU JUST ASSUME MY GENDER? and make some guy even richer.

Then go home and absorb the messages on the gogglebox and obey.

Theyre getting desperate. They know the tables have turned with the advent of the internet, now theyre resorting to rudimementary mind control tricks to stop the people from thinking for themselves. But it won't work. The discontent is here, and it will not being going away. The revolution is coming.

[Royal24s]

Does that mean if I can get multiple people to say you're a paedophile on here, you are a paedophile?

Don't know, but a lot of people on here say that ticks a bit of a tosser and I must say its hard to disagree.

[Royal24s]

Should tick take something from the sheer volume of accusations ?

[Eaststand]

Not really. These are fame hungry people who can cry on cue, because theyre actors.

Accusing Weinstein of rape is a HUGE profile boost. Look at charmed lady, Rose whatever the fuck. New series in the pipeline, film offers..............

It doesnt take a genius to figure this out.

[kancutlawns]

Does that mean if I can get multiple people to say you're a paedophile on here, you are a paedophile?

Don't know, but a lot of people on here say that ticks a bit of a tosser and I must say its hard to disagree.

They pretty much say the same about you too so it kind of evens itself out.

[warmleatherette]

Speak up at the time or keep your trap shut. We all know why they didn't make the accusations when they were supposed to have happened, and that was their choice. So it should be tough titty now.

Speaking up is tough when you have a powerful Hollywood mogul to contend with. As we see with the victim blaming going on this thread, which is a microcosm of the victim blaming that goes on in society and at institutional levels. Victims should speak out at the time of assault, but for many reasons they are too fearful to do so.

The actresses that stood up to Weinstein saw their careers ruined. It is only just that he now faces the same humiliation himself.

I think you're mistaking fear for ambition, big difference.

[Eaststand]

Speak up at the time or keep your trap shut. We all know why they didn't make the accusations when they were supposed to have happened, and that was their choice. So it should be tough titty now.

Speaking up is tough when you have a powerful Hollywood mogul to contend with. As we see with the victim blaming going on this thread, which is a microcosm of the victim blaming that goes on in society and at institutional levels. Victims should speak out at the time of assault, but for many reasons they are too fearful to do so.

The actresses that stood up to Weinstein saw their careers ruined. It is only just that he now faces the same humiliation himself.

I think you're mistaking fear for ambition, big difference.

[The Tick]

But hang on, you seem to already made up your mind about Weinstein regardless that his accusers said he's been up to this for decades and are happy that he's being hung out to dry without facing a single accusation in a court of law. So obviously it's all academic to you regardless of the women sitting on their hands until it was convenient and in THEIR own interests to come out. It does lead one to question what they're getting out of it and why wait until now. Hundreds of accusers, why now and not say a few years ago?

his downfall came after revelations of sexual harassment. His own admission to his offences, and the decision of his own company to disown him are indicators that he did display predatory behaviour towards women.

Subsequent to all that we now have one or two rape accusations come to light.

Yes more women should have come out earlier. But for reasons I’ve already gone over, it’s not that easy. like getting victims of domestic violence to implicate their abusers, it is hard for women to talk about such things for so many reasons. And just because the abused woman happens to be wealthy or famous that does not excuse what may have happened to her not should it deny her a voice against it.

[Eaststand]

No, theyre indicators of what companies do nowadays, immediately sack people if ALLEGATIONS are made.

You do know allegations are not the same as fact until proven in a court of law, right?

[The Tick]

Speak up at the time or keep your trap shut. We all know why they didn't make the accusations when they were supposed to have happened, and that was their choice. So it should be tough titty now.

Speaking up is tough when you have a powerful Hollywood mogul to contend with. As we see with the victim blaming going on this thread, which is a microcosm of the victim blaming that goes on in society and at institutional levels. Victims should speak out at the time of assault, but for many reasons they are too fearful to do so.

The actresses that stood up to Weinstein saw their careers ruined. It is only just that he now faces the same humiliation himself.

I think you're mistaking fear for ambition, big difference.

People like Weinstein do play on people’s ambitions to try and get them to do what he wants. If there is a consensual affair then that is not an offence.

But in Weinstein’s case, we have accounts of unwanted sexual advances and him forcing himself on women. That is what people are now speaking against.

[Eaststand]

but they took the perks of going along with it, didnt they?

And you believe them why?

[The Tick]

No, theyre indicators of what companies do nowadays, immediately sack people if ALLEGATIONS are made.

You do know allegations are not the same as fact until proven in a court of law, right?

He’s admitted his own wrongdoings. In addition to the original accusations, he’s been exposed as a sexual predator