Grooming, BBC, etc
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And I recall repeatedly responding to those same points, (repeatedly in your case, but most recently a few posts ago - 3:09 pm to be exact) and don't believe a response from you (or vespa) has materialised.
Anyone (such as Tick) that uses 'gammon' as a racial pejorative is as much a racist as those who use the word nigger and similar pejoratively.
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Royal24s wrote:kancutlawns wrote:I’m not sure how your experience relates to what I posted.
Simply examples of how things go wrong when we look at the identity or group of individuals when considering what action to take. It shouldn't be a factor , favourable or unfavourable.
Tell Twing that.
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Hillman avenger wrote:Royal24s wrote:kancutlawns wrote:I’m not sure how your experience relates to what I posted.
Simply examples of how things go wrong when we look at the identity or group of individuals when considering what action to take. It shouldn't be a factor , favourable or unfavourable.
Tell Twing that.
Could be wrong of course, but I'm not sure he meant what you think he meant.
Anyone (such as Tick) that uses 'gammon' as a racial pejorative is as much a racist as those who use the word nigger and similar pejoratively.
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I hesitate to perpetuate this circular dialogue, but it's perhaps worth noting that Andy Burnham and the gmp have today acknowledged that grooming gangs have been let off for fear of appearing racist or islamophobic
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Royal24s wrote:I hesitate to perpetuate this circular dialogue, but it's perhaps worth noting that Andy Burnham and the gmp have today acknowledged that grooming gangs have been let off for fear of appearing racist or islamophobic
Now I wonder who's to blame for that.
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I cannot seem to find any quotes stating 'that Andy Burnham and the gmp have today acknowledged that grooming gangs have been let off for fear of appearing racist or islamophobic'
I could find "The report found the operation was ultimately “prematurely closed down… before it could complete its work”, a decision that was driven by a desire to “remove the resources”, rather than by having “a sound understanding that all lines of enquiry had been successfully completed or exhausted”.
I could find "The report found the operation was ultimately “prematurely closed down… before it could complete its work”, a decision that was driven by a desire to “remove the resources”, rather than by having “a sound understanding that all lines of enquiry had been successfully completed or exhausted”.
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Royal24s wrote:I hesitate to perpetuate this circular dialogue, but it's perhaps worth noting that Andy Burnham and the gmp have today acknowledged that grooming gangs have been let off for fear of appearing racist or islamophobic
Is that right?
Can you post the link where it says that? Ta.
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ToRmAtO wrote:I cannot seem to find any quotes stating 'that Andy Burnham and the gmp have today acknowledged that grooming gangs have been let off for fear of appearing racist or islamophobic'
I could find "The report found the operation was ultimately “prematurely closed down… before it could complete its work”, a decision that was driven by a desire to “remove the resources”, rather than by having “a sound understanding that all lines of enquiry had been successfully completed or exhausted”.
Again I hesitate because it's not a subject I find terribly interesting but I watched the piece and Burnham was most certainly acknowledging that the investigation had ducked the issues in case it interfered with " inter community relations", and said that mustn't happen again.
He's not a bloke I'd much rely on as a source of accuracy in fairness , but that is what he said and your quote is out of context and misleading
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Royal24s wrote:ToRmAtO wrote:I cannot seem to find any quotes stating 'that Andy Burnham and the gmp have today acknowledged that grooming gangs have been let off for fear of appearing racist or islamophobic'
I could find "The report found the operation was ultimately “prematurely closed down… before it could complete its work”, a decision that was driven by a desire to “remove the resources”, rather than by having “a sound understanding that all lines of enquiry had been successfully completed or exhausted”.
Again I hesitate because it's not a subject I find terribly interesting but I watched the piece and Burnham was most certainly acknowledging that the investigation had ducked the issues in case it interfered with " inter community relations", and said that mustn't happen again.
He's not a bloke I'd much rely on as a source of accuracy in fairness , but that is what he said and your quote is out of context and misleading
Where's the PROOF, or were you just BULLSHITTING to make a point. You clearly stated they had 'acknowledged that grooming gangs have been let off for fear of appearing racist or islamophobic' PROOF!!!
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Royal24s wrote:ToRmAtO wrote:I cannot seem to find any quotes stating 'that Andy Burnham and the gmp have today acknowledged that grooming gangs have been let off for fear of appearing racist or islamophobic'
I could find "The report found the operation was ultimately “prematurely closed down… before it could complete its work”, a decision that was driven by a desire to “remove the resources”, rather than by having “a sound understanding that all lines of enquiry had been successfully completed or exhausted”.
Again I hesitate because it's not a subject I find terribly interesting but I watched the piece and Burnham was most certainly acknowledging that the investigation had ducked the issues in case it interfered with " inter community relations", and said that mustn't happen again.
He's not a bloke I'd much rely on as a source of accuracy in fairness , but that is what he said and your quote is out of context and misleading
I'm just surprised we haven't been told that they were in disguise, and were actually catholic priests.
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By the way Church of England clergy have the problem too.
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ToRmAtO wrote:Royal24s wrote:ToRmAtO wrote:I cannot seem to find any quotes stating 'that Andy Burnham and the gmp have today acknowledged that grooming gangs have been let off for fear of appearing racist or islamophobic'
I could find "The report found the operation was ultimately “prematurely closed down… before it could complete its work”, a decision that was driven by a desire to “remove the resources”, rather than by having “a sound understanding that all lines of enquiry had been successfully completed or exhausted”.
Again I hesitate because it's not a subject I find terribly interesting but I watched the piece and Burnham was most certainly acknowledging that the investigation had ducked the issues in case it interfered with " inter community relations", and said that mustn't happen again.
He's not a bloke I'd much rely on as a source of accuracy in fairness , but that is what he said and your quote is out of context and misleading
Where's the PROOF, or were you just BULLSHITTING to make a point. You clearly stated they had 'acknowledged that grooming gangs have been let off for fear of appearing racist or islamophobic' PROOF!!!
I don't know what point you think I want to make. It's not up to me to prove what they said - it's on tv every half an hour at the moment so I suggest you watch it.
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Royal24s wrote:
I don't know what point you think I want to make. It's not up to me to prove what they said - it's on tv every half an hour at the moment so I suggest you watch it.
Pathetic childlike back-peddling bullshit answer.
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Hillman avenger wrote:By the way Church of England clergy have the problem too.
My professional experience suggests that it's a thing which happens right across society and in most groups you can think of. From time to time there's a spate in one organisation or another , and I can't see much sense in you or anyone else trying to weaponise it against the particular groups you dislike OR trying to deny that it exists in groups you happen to like.
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ToRmAtO wrote:Royal24s wrote:
I don't know what point you think I want to make. It's not up to me to prove what they said - it's on tv every half an hour at the moment so I suggest you watch it.
Pathetic childlike back-peddling bullshit answer.
Calm down - why on earth are you trying to spin the story ?
It is what it is.
I'd draw your attention to the reply I made to Hillman above, because it seems to apply to your own position too.
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