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Zambo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2024 5:30 pm

Sunbeam Alpine wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2024 4:49 pm

antdad wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2024 8:46 am

Holden Mcgroyne wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2024 8:23 pm Looked a pen in real time, the reality was that Elliott dived without any contact and fell on Wan Bissaka. Stupid of him to go to ground, but not a pen.

If you have to slow the footage down to 1/20 speed it isn't clear and obvious plus they rarely overturn a penalty area decision even if it was.

Neither VAR, nor more importantly, Fernandes or Wan-Bissaka argued.

They had obviously got the message that dissent is pointless, and didn't want a yellow card.

Elliott tripped himself over Wan's leg, and could have avoided contact. It was a good one I'll give you that, but VAR should have picked it up

Fernandes is by a long distance the biggest rent-a-gob in the Prem.
The prospect of a card hasn't stopped him before.

If you don't award a pen for a foul in the area, it all ends now. But where's the fun in that?

Holden Mcgroyne wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2024 8:23 pm Looked a pen in real time, the reality was that Elliott dived without any contact and fell on Wan Bissaka. Stupid of him to go to ground, but not a pen.

Operation 'Save Liverpool's season' is well underway

wtf is this supposed to mean?

'If you make a challenge like this, the expectation from me was penalty'..

Absolute nonesense.

Elliott initiated the contact. Wan's leg was there Elliott tripped over it deliberately.

Correct outcome would have been free kick United, yellow for Elliott.

Zambo wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:41 am wtf is this supposed to mean?

'If you make a challenge like this, the expectation from me was penalty'..

Absolute nonesense.

Elliott initiated the contact. Wan's leg was there Elliott tripped over it deliberately.

Correct outcome would have been free kick United, yellow for Elliott.

I agree, there's some meaningless drivel from Gallagher:

Gallagher addressed this directly: "People say 'is there a lot of contact?' Well he dives in, he definitely makes contact."

When asked if Elliott had 'initiated contact', the former referee said: "I think he's just stood his ground. My expectation was penalty and I think the decision is right."

Anyone can see that Wan-Bissaka dived in, moved his foot away and Elliot initiated contact with his thigh.

Direct link to Hillman's story: https://anfieldwatch.co.uk/ex-referee-d ... -decision/

Zambo wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:41 am wtf is this supposed to mean?

'If you make a challenge like this, the expectation from me was penalty'..

Absolute nonesense.

Elliott initiated the contact. Wan's leg was there Elliott tripped over it deliberately.

Correct outcome would have been free kick United, yellow for Elliott.

To be fair , that's all there is to it . If VAR looked at that incident , no matter what film speed they view it at and they still
give it as a penalty , it's obviously not fit for purpose .

Also , anyone who has seen the clip and sees it as a penalty is either one eyed blinkered or knows fuck all about the game

Or is a member of this forum.

So the referee, VAR, the Sky team, Dermot Gallagher and apparently Wan-Bissaka thought it was a penalty.

But here we have the real experts!

You don't have to be a real expert, just be able to correctly interpret the laws if the game, and in this particular instance, tell the difference between being tripped, and tripping your self deliberately, to get a penalty kick awarded to your team.

Has Dermot Gallagher ever said a ref got a decision wrong ?

Sunbeam Alpine wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 1:11 pm Or is a member of this forum.

So the referee, VAR, the Sky team, Dermot Gallagher and apparently Wan-Bissaka thought it was a penalty.

But here we have the real experts!

Ok , do you think it was a penalty ?

Yes

The action of Wann-Bissaka was reckless, full-length, studs showing. What effect he had on Elliot isn't the point.

As to your "Save Liverpool's season" comment, last time I looked, on the table of benefitting from VAR we came seventeenth. We have also had PGMOL concessions on decisions made which have probably cost us ( at least) three points. To suggest that Anthony Taylor- a referee who has conspicuously been hard on us- somehow decided to help us is absurd.

Sunbeam Alpine wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 5:21 pm Yes

The action of Wann-Bissaka was reckless, full-length, studs showing. What effect he had on Elliot isn't the point.

Nothing reckless about it. He was clearly making a genuine attempt to play the ball. His foot was pointing downwards when he made the challenge, and in stretching his foot naturally moved slightly upwards. Elliott deliberately latched his foot under Wan's knee and fell forward.

Oh OK

As Elliot is a Jake Paul look-a-like he really shouldn't have gone down so easy.