Jeremy Corbyn

[Kowalski]

They may as well ask George Galloway back and put him into the mix.

He'd willingly bring things forward a bit and fly the flag of Allah over Downing Street right now.

He'll be the Deputy Leader Mark.

[m4rkb]

You could be bang on the money there Kow. It's no way a far fetched situation if Corbyn ever did become leader or God forbid PM.

[Roy Twing]

I reckon you are very quickly turning into a Tory Ralph.

Don't be shy, come on out.

Not a chance.

I want someone who can beat the Tories as leader of the opposition.

It does seem, more and more, that you 'mainstream' labour supporters aren't interested in any core principles, - only in seeing your team win.

[the rotary club]

Says the 'man' who voted Tory to stop Labour winning his marginal.

Hilariously hypocritical.

[Kowalski]

You could be bang on the money there Kow. It's no way a far fetched situation if Corbyn ever did become leader or God forbid PM.

Even under Miliband Labour had segregated meetings, god knows what they'll be like under Corbyn.

[colinthewarriormonkey]

Not really, Roy Twing has expressed right wing (or roy twing) views on almost every topic on here. Assuming he was a Labour supporter pre 1997 he must have been a left winger whose own convictions changed over time regardless of what route Labour took.

Far right and far left views are very similar indeed.

There were a lot of labour voting racists back in the heyday of the Labour party in the 1970's.

Labour voters traditionally are working class people who seek to protect their lifestyle and make things better for themselves and their families and that includes being worried about their jobs being stolen by immigrants.

Not the metropolitan "labour" elite who regard them as such savages that they must be Tories.

[colinthewarriormonkey]

It's funny isn't it that 3 of the most "right wing" posters on this board all want to see Corbyn do well and all for the same reason, they admire a man of conviction and think that it is important for democracy that Britain has a real choice in who they want to vote for and which way the country should go.

Yet the left leaning people are terrified that he'll become leader because it means their side won't win.

Terrified is strong word, but I think he's got zero chance of winning the 2020 GE & every chance of taking Labour backwards from where they are now. Might explain why the right wingers like the idea of him winning.

It isn't so in my case.
As I've previously stated, - I voted labour until it gave up its principles in order to simply be able to win an election.
I despise the labour party for this (amongst other reasons).
Corbyn would return the party to its natural values.

You voted Labour???





Maybe in a different life.

Indeed the main thing wrong with the assertion is simply that it's bollocks!

According to Twing out of principle he stopped voting Labour when they gave up their principles and hence moved to the right. To demonstrate his commitment to those long held principles so close to his heart he did exactly the same and moved right even adopting the right wing / roy twing internet nom de plume to share his new found 'principles' with world

It takes some believing.

Not really

Unless you think that no labour voter is capable of being concerned about immigrants coming into the country or the rise of a foreign religion.

It may surprise you to know that many labour voters are working class people with real working class problems who see their neighbourhoods being overrun.

It just shows that you are as out of touch with the common man as your new labour grandees.

No that might explain not voting Labour but that doesn't explain decades of voting left and the volte face to being an ardent right wing / roy twing supporter. He berates Labour for giving up their principles yet if you choose to believe him Twanger has done the same only in a more extreme manner, at the very least it's hypocrisy of the highest order or far more likely complete bollocks.

Not at all

You clearly don't know many working class labour voters from a certain generation.

People think the only popular culture racist on TV was the right wing Alf Garnet.

However - Here is a selection of quotes from Eddie Booth - a 1970's socialist (IIRC he was a union shop steward), it may well be a comedy but it was a reflection of the times.

The right wing doesn't own concerns over immigration or indeed downright racism.

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[colinthewarriormonkey]

Chuka, Dan Jarvis, Kier Starmer, Stella Creasy. etc.

Are identical to Burnham, Kendall & Cooper.

That is why people are opting for Corbyn.

In the long run, this could be a good thing for UK politics - the return of good old fashioned conviction politicians.

Exactly

[Ralph]

Says the 'man' who voted Tory to stop Labour winning his marginal.

Hilariously hypocritical.

I assumed Roy voted UKIP. What happened to judging Cameron by whether he kept his promises on immigration?

You voted for the party that's responsible for the highest levels of immigration in the history of the country, which is a bit odd when you spend so much time on here moaning about it.

[Ralph]

Not at all

You clearly don't know many working class labour voters from a certain generation.

People think the only popular culture racist on TV was the right wing Alf Garnet.

However - Here is a selection of quotes from Eddie Booth - a 1970's socialist (IIRC he was a union shop steward), it may well be a comedy but it was a reflection of the times.

The right wing doesn't own concerns over immigration or indeed downright racism.

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Alf Garnett was a piss take of a racist working class Tory.

[Roy Twing]

Says the 'man' who voted Tory to stop Labour winning his marginal.

Hilariously hypocritical.

I assumed Roy voted UKIP. What happened to judging Cameron by whether he kept his promises on immigration?

You voted for the party that's responsible for the highest levels of immigration in the history of the country, which is a bit odd when you spend so much time on here moaning about it.

Not that I'm happy feeding the troll's obsession with me, but I voted Tory in 2010 (ukip was not an available option for me at that time) as the 'least worst' Hobson's choice - I voted ukip in 2015 although they were unlikely to come close to winning in my area.

I hope that clarifies your confusion.

I also trust it enables you to accept you were wrong in your 2nd paragraph.

[Steve Hunt]

Says the 'man' who voted Tory to stop Labour winning his marginal.

Hilariously hypocritical.

I assumed Roy voted UKIP. What happened to judging Cameron by whether he kept his promises on immigration?

You voted for the party that's responsible for the highest levels of immigration in the history of the country, which is a bit odd when you spend so much time on here moaning about it.

I very much doubt that Roy voted Tory.

For exactly the reasons you have highlighted, Ralph.

I love it that many of my friends and colleagues are now moaning about Cameron's ineptitude (particularly over Calais) when they voted for him a few months ago. What the fuck did they expect? They have got the government they wanted. No good fucking moaning about it now.

[Ralph]

Says the 'man' who voted Tory to stop Labour winning his marginal.

Hilariously hypocritical.

I assumed Roy voted UKIP. What happened to judging Cameron by whether he kept his promises on immigration?

You voted for the party that's responsible for the highest levels of immigration in the history of the country, which is a bit odd when you spend so much time on here moaning about it.

Not that I'm happy feeding the troll's obsession with me, but I voted Tory in 2010 (ukip was not an available option for me at that time) as the 'least worst' Hobson's choice - I voted ukip in 2015 although they were unlikely to come close to winning in my area.

I hope that clarifies your confusion.



I also trust it enables you to accept you were wrong in your 2nd paragraph.

It does Royston. People who voted Tory in 2015 should be banned from moaning about immigration. That's one of my core principles BTW.

[The Tick]

Not really, Roy Twing has expressed right wing (or roy twing) views on almost every topic on here. Assuming he was a Labour supporter pre 1997 he must have been a left winger whose own convictions changed over time regardless of what route Labour took.

Far right and far left views are very similar indeed.

There were a lot of labour voting racists back in the heyday of the Labour party in the 1970's.

Labour voters traditionally are working class people who seek to protect their lifestyle and make things better for themselves and their families and that includes being worried about their jobs being stolen by immigrants.

Not the metropolitan "labour" elite who regard them as such savages that they must be Tories.

Roy has espoused very non traditional Labour opinions on issues other than immigration, leading me to suspect the must be a former left winger (if indeed he voted Labour pre 1997) who has changed views entirely of his own accord, with no relation to the path Labour has taken.

[Steve Hunt]

People who voted Tory in 2015 should be banned from moaning about immigration.

Spot on, Ralph

The dimwitted, feeble minded twats