ToRmAtO wrote:I find it really strange that Ryanair chief executive Michael O’Leary claimed that terrorists “will generally be males of a Muslim persuasion”, where the truth is that his people in the Republic of Ireland under whatever guise of the IRA you want to call it, still kill, maim, injure, plot against etc etc British people more than any other group.
'His people'
Bit of a racist post.
The Irish aren't a race though.
When it suits I suppose.
Though if someone told you they didn't like Jamaicans I'd bet you'd be on your soapbox labelling them a racist bigot.
ToRmAtO wrote:I find it really strange that Ryanair chief executive Michael O’Leary claimed that terrorists “will generally be males of a Muslim persuasion”, where the truth is that his people in the Republic of Ireland under whatever guise of the IRA you want to call it, still kill, maim, injure, plot against etc etc British people more than any other group.
'His people'
Bit of a racist post.
The Irish aren't a race though.
When it suits I suppose.
Though if someone told you they didn't like Jamaicans I'd bet you'd be on your soapbox labelling them a racist bigot.
Nah, he'd just do another tedious and repetitive post about Boris Johnson
ToRmAtO wrote:I find it really strange that Ryanair chief executive Michael O’Leary claimed that terrorists “will generally be males of a Muslim persuasion”, where the truth is that his people in the Republic of Ireland under whatever guise of the IRA you want to call it, still kill, maim, injure, plot against etc etc British people more than any other group.
'His people'
Bit of a racist post.
The Irish aren't a race though.
When it suits I suppose.
Though if someone told you they didn't like Jamaicans I'd bet you'd be on your soapbox labelling them a racist bigot.
ToRmAtO wrote:I find it really strange that Ryanair chief executive Michael O’Leary claimed that terrorists “will generally be males of a Muslim persuasion”, where the truth is that his people in the Republic of Ireland under whatever guise of the IRA you want to call it, still kill, maim, injure, plot against etc etc British people more than any other group.
'His people'
Bit of a racist post.
The Irish aren't a race though.
The reason I avoided using the word racist is because I get it that you don't necessarily understand the stuff you talk about. I don't know how many Moslems or Irish republicans you've come across, or how directly you've been involved in the contaversies around either - I suspect not very much.
In fact though, and I think most people know this, most of the recent troubles in Ireland spring from the treatment of Irish Catholic people by Ulster Scots, who most certainly regard them as a race and ,according to them, an inferior race. Over many decades they have exhibited very racist practices against them, prevented them from getting certain jobs or living in certain places.
If you don't see and accept that this is one of the world's great and most destructive forms ofracism I'd say that you're in a minority - albeit that you might live somewhere where this view is not uncommon.
Whilst I had to take you up on it, I honestly don't think you understand what you're saying, so I'm not vilifying you, but - really - have a read up on it.
What part of Irish aren't a race did you not understand?
You obviously, have absolutely no idea what a race of people is.
You're not helping yourself here. You obviously don't understand the stuff you're talking about and yet you're doubling down on your sectarian talk.
This is a form of racism which has resulted in tens of thousands of deaths and immense suffering all around, and yet you speak of this complicated yet perfectly well known conflict from an apparent position of complete ignorance, and in the manner of an Orangeman Circa 1967 !
'"Beauty is truth, truth beauty,
That is all ye know on earth, and all ye need to know".
ToRmAtO wrote:I find it really strange that Ryanair chief executive Michael O’Leary claimed that terrorists “will generally be males of a Muslim persuasion”, where the truth is that his people in the Republic of Ireland under whatever guise of the IRA you want to call it, still kill, maim, injure, plot against etc etc British people more than any other group.
'His people'
Bit of a racist post.
The Irish aren't a race though.
When it suits I suppose.
Though if someone told you they didn't like Jamaicans I'd bet you'd be on your soapbox labelling them a racist bigot.
Jamaicans aren't a race.
This gets worse and worse. Here we see the archetypal socialist bigotry at work - shout the odds at everyone else accusing them of racism for no good reason when they disagree with you, but it's okay to make actual racist comments about the Irish, Jamaicans or Jewish people then act as if you've got an examption or rationalise it by splitting hairs.
'"Beauty is truth, truth beauty,
That is all ye know on earth, and all ye need to know".
ToRmAtO wrote:I find it really strange that Ryanair chief executive Michael O’Leary claimed that terrorists “will generally be males of a Muslim persuasion”, where the truth is that his people in the Republic of Ireland under whatever guise of the IRA you want to call it, still kill, maim, injure, plot against etc etc British people more than any other group.
'His people'
Bit of a racist post.
The Irish aren't a race though.
When it suits I suppose.
Though if someone told you they didn't like Jamaicans I'd bet you'd be on your soapbox labelling them a racist bigot.
Jamaicans aren't a race.
This gets worse and worse. Here we see the archetypal socialist bigotry at work - shout the odds at everyone else accusing them of racism for no good reason when they disagree with you, but it's okay to make actual racist comments about the Irish, Jamaicans or Jewish people then act as if you've got an examption or rationalise it by splitting hairs.
ToRmAtO wrote:I find it really strange that Ryanair chief executive Michael O’Leary claimed that terrorists “will generally be males of a Muslim persuasion”, where the truth is that his people in the Republic of Ireland under whatever guise of the IRA you want to call it, still kill, maim, injure, plot against etc etc British people more than any other group.
'His people'
Bit of a racist post.
The Irish aren't a race though.
When it suits I suppose.
Though if someone told you they didn't like Jamaicans I'd bet you'd be on your soapbox labelling them a racist bigot.
Jamaicans aren't a race.
This gets worse and worse. Here we see the archetypal socialist bigotry at work - shout the odds at everyone else accusing them of racism for no good reason when they disagree with you, but it's okay to make actual racist comments about the Irish, Jamaicans or Jewish people then act as if you've got an examption or rationalise it by splitting hairs.
Jewish aren't a race either.
I'd stick to your more whimsical posts if I were you, Tom.
You're not very good at this.
Anyone (such as Tick) that uses 'gammon' as a racial pejorative is as much a racist as those who use the word nigger and similar pejoratively.
E & OE
ToRmAtO wrote:I find it really strange that Ryanair chief executive Michael O’Leary claimed that terrorists “will generally be males of a Muslim persuasion”, where the truth is that his people in the Republic of Ireland under whatever guise of the IRA you want to call it, still kill, maim, injure, plot against etc etc British people more than any other group.
'His people'
Bit of a racist post.
The Irish aren't a race though.
When it suits I suppose.
Though if someone told you they didn't like Jamaicans I'd bet you'd be on your soapbox labelling them a racist bigot.
Jamaicans aren't a race.
This gets worse and worse. Here we see the archetypal socialist bigotry at work - shout the odds at everyone else accusing them of racism for no good reason when they disagree with you, but it's okay to make actual racist comments about the Irish, Jamaicans or Jewish people then act as if you've got an examption or rationalise it by splitting hairs.
Jewish aren't a race either.
I'd stick to your more whimsical posts if I were you, Tom.
You're not very good at this.
.. or maybe you are just thick too.
Jewish is the religion or sometimes the name was given to the population of Israel, the original Jews were Arabs, which are a race.
Jamaicans can be any shade of skin tone, as the most likely inhabitants are black they are classed as negro, which is a race.
Irish is an ethnicity, the original settlers that settled there were more than likely caucasian (white), which is a race.
ToRmAtO wrote:I find it really strange that Ryanair chief executive Michael O’Leary claimed that terrorists “will generally be males of a Muslim persuasion”, where the truth is that his people in the Republic of Ireland under whatever guise of the IRA you want to call it, still kill, maim, injure, plot against etc etc British people more than any other group.
'His people'
Bit of a racist post.
The Irish aren't a race though.
When it suits I suppose.
Though if someone told you they didn't like Jamaicans I'd bet you'd be on your soapbox labelling them a racist bigot.
Jamaicans aren't a race.
This gets worse and worse. Here we see the archetypal socialist bigotry at work - shout the odds at everyone else accusing them of racism for no good reason when they disagree with you, but it's okay to make actual racist comments about the Irish, Jamaicans or Jewish people then act as if you've got an examption or rationalise it by splitting hairs.
Jewish aren't a race either.
I'd stick to your more whimsical posts if I were you, Tom.
You're not very good at this.
.. or maybe you are just thick too.
Jewish is the religion or sometimes the name was given to the population of Israel, the original Jews were Arabs, which are a race.
Jamaicans can be any shade of skin tone, as the most likely inhabitants are black they are classed as negro, which is a race.
Irish is an ethnicity, the original settlers that settled there were more than likely caucasian (white), which is a race.
Prove me wrong ...
So, - let's take your summary into the real world Tom ....
What do you think would be/is the response from just about everyone, not least the MSM, if someone were to proclaim any of the following:
"Jews are hook-nosed misers";
"Irish people are thick";
"Jamaicans are dope-smoking gangsters" ?
Anyone (such as Tick) that uses 'gammon' as a racial pejorative is as much a racist as those who use the word nigger and similar pejoratively.
E & OE
ToRmAtO wrote:I find it really strange that Ryanair chief executive Michael O’Leary claimed that terrorists “will generally be males of a Muslim persuasion”, where the truth is that his people in the Republic of Ireland under whatever guise of the IRA you want to call it, still kill, maim, injure, plot against etc etc British people more than any other group.
'His people'
Bit of a racist post.
The Irish aren't a race though.
When it suits I suppose.
Though if someone told you they didn't like Jamaicans I'd bet you'd be on your soapbox labelling them a racist bigot.
Jamaicans aren't a race.
This gets worse and worse. Here we see the archetypal socialist bigotry at work - shout the odds at everyone else accusing them of racism for no good reason when they disagree with you, but it's okay to make actual racist comments about the Irish, Jamaicans or Jewish people then act as if you've got an examption or rationalise it by splitting hairs.
Jewish aren't a race either.
I'd stick to your more whimsical posts if I were you, Tom.
You're not very good at this.
.. or maybe you are just thick too.
Jewish is the religion or sometimes the name was given to the population of Israel, the original Jews were Arabs, which are a race.
Jamaicans can be any shade of skin tone, as the most likely inhabitants are black they are classed as negro, which is a race.
Irish is an ethnicity, the original settlers that settled there were more than likely caucasian (white), which is a race.
Prove me wrong ...
So, - let's take your summary into the real world Tom ....
What do you think would be/is the response from just about everyone, not least the MSM, if someone were to proclaim any of the following:
"Jews are hook-nosed misers";
"Irish people are thick";
"Jamaicans are dope-smoking gangsters" ?
Just prove me wrong, I have answered the question against me, I am not interested in your semantic questions to deflect away from your earlier stupid remarks.,
No one needs to prove you wrong because you're spouting out ridiculous stuff. However ,
1 . Obviously Jews are a race. They were the subject of Hitler's "racial cleansing " policy - or did you miss that along with the history of Ireland from Cromwell onwards ?
2. Whilst not all Jamaicans are not "negros" as you so charmingly phrase it, they are likely to and have been the subject of racism by ignorant people on the basis of their race. Therefore it's not generally accepted that being racist toward them is okay if you follow that up by pointing out that they may be of other races than the ones you've targetted.
Would you know an Arawak if you saw one, and are there many of them up there in the highlands ?
3. Who do you consider to be the original "settlers" in Ireland then ? There were indigenous people living there in the 11th Century BC, about 6000 years before the great pyramid, so what bollocks is this ?
There were the Tuatha de Danaan who were supposed to be magic people who came there and the Fir Bolg who are probably the origin of the idea of leprechauns, but these are just stories.
You might like to know that Ireland was the first land in Europe to become Christian and have its own literature, and that actually Scotland was settled by the Irish at one time.
Having said this for your general edification and in an effort to dispel you're illusions of superiority , ( which is often the root of racism), the native Catholic Irish were treated as a separate inferior race for hundreds of years and that's a VERY well established historical fact.
There we are then, that's proven you wrong as requested, and I hope it's encouraged you to read a book or two before you next write whole races of people and their sufferings off in such an off hand way.
'"Beauty is truth, truth beauty,
That is all ye know on earth, and all ye need to know".
Though if someone told you they didn't like Jamaicans I'd bet you'd be on your soapbox labelling them a racist bigot.
Jamaicans aren't a race.
This gets worse and worse. Here we see the archetypal socialist bigotry at work - shout the odds at everyone else accusing them of racism for no good reason when they disagree with you, but it's okay to make actual racist comments about the Irish, Jamaicans or Jewish people then act as if you've got an examption or rationalise it by splitting hairs.
Jewish aren't a race either.
I'd stick to your more whimsical posts if I were you, Tom.
You're not very good at this.
.. or maybe you are just thick too.
Jewish is the religion or sometimes the name was given to the population of Israel, the original Jews were Arabs, which are a race.
Jamaicans can be any shade of skin tone, as the most likely inhabitants are black they are classed as negro, which is a race.
Irish is an ethnicity, the original settlers that settled there were more than likely caucasian (white), which is a race.
Prove me wrong ...
So, - let's take your summary into the real world Tom ....
What do you think would be/is the response from just about everyone, not least the MSM, if someone were to proclaim any of the following:
"Jews are hook-nosed misers";
"Irish people are thick";
"Jamaicans are dope-smoking gangsters" ?
Just prove me wrong, I have answered the question against me, I am not interested in your semantic questions to deflect away from your earlier stupid remarks.,
I'm not trying to prove you wrong, - I'm trying to explain to you why your pedantry, whilst arguably not without substance, wouldn't save you from retribution in today's politically correct world.
Do you know how many times I've been accused of racism on here for my criticism of islam, Tom?
The fact that the accusers are technically wrong doesn't stop it from happening.
But feel free to carry on standing on the metaphorical corner with your metaphorical billboard if it floats your boat.
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Anyone (such as Tick) that uses 'gammon' as a racial pejorative is as much a racist as those who use the word nigger and similar pejoratively.
E & OE
Though if someone told you they didn't like Jamaicans I'd bet you'd be on your soapbox labelling them a racist bigot.
Jamaicans aren't a race.
This gets worse and worse. Here we see the archetypal socialist bigotry at work - shout the odds at everyone else accusing them of racism for no good reason when they disagree with you, but it's okay to make actual racist comments about the Irish, Jamaicans or Jewish people then act as if you've got an examption or rationalise it by splitting hairs.
Jewish aren't a race either.
I'd stick to your more whimsical posts if I were you, Tom.
You're not very good at this.
.. or maybe you are just thick too.
Jewish is the religion or sometimes the name was given to the population of Israel, the original Jews were Arabs, which are a race.
Jamaicans can be any shade of skin tone, as the most likely inhabitants are black they are classed as negro, which is a race.
Irish is an ethnicity, the original settlers that settled there were more than likely caucasian (white), which is a race.
Prove me wrong ...
So, - let's take your summary into the real world Tom ....
What do you think would be/is the response from just about everyone, not least the MSM, if someone were to proclaim any of the following:
"Jews are hook-nosed misers";
"Irish people are thick";
"Jamaicans are dope-smoking gangsters" ?
Just prove me wrong, I have answered the question against me, I am not interested in your semantic questions to deflect away from your earlier stupid remarks.,
Mate... I deliberately avoided calling you stupid, but I'll tell you this, you're certainly not the one to be telling other people they're stupid.
'"Beauty is truth, truth beauty,
That is all ye know on earth, and all ye need to know".
Time out girls. It's going nowhere except the can if it continues. Have a debate on what is a race and what isn't by all means, but start another thread, and if you can't do it without the insults and goading, do it in Pandemonium.
When your heart is blue, there is nothing you can do. Keep Right On
