Carlos J wrote:Thank you for your kind words, Royals. Others may call them patronising, but that is them. I take them in sincerity. In D&D, agree to disagree, play the ball not the man, attack the post not the poster and other clichés are available.Royal24s wrote:Well, whilst I still disagree because I think it's a dangerous path to go down, I do thank you for taking so much time and trouble to state and explain your position on the matter.
I am quite certain that this is an honest and sincere position, and I never doubted that.
Your position as a moderator is no doubt often a difficult one, and I think we should all appreciate that you have taken it on voluntarily to help the whole thing function. The fact that you have taken the trouble to address a concern does you great credit in the role and as an individual whom I have seen develop impressively over the years we have both occasionally posted here.
The conversation demonstrates that we can disagree without being disagreeable , which is a lesson that many here could learn from.
Of course, I will disagree with you though. There is no dangerous path going down IMO. As per, posts about Christianity are allowed in any thread. It's better if more general then to keep to this thread. That is all I wanted and to keep other threads to topic.
Keep it tidy or others get confused.
I'm sorry I seem to have failed to quote you in my previous, so it proves that you actually read the bloody thing because it might not have been immediately clear that I was replying to you .
Anyway, I don't do patronising, which is subjective anyway. Of course I was being sincere.
I'm older than you and I've been lucky enough to have been round the block a bit as you might put it, often in quite serious situations. During this wonderful and eventful journey I hope that I've developed a bit myself and the often harsh criticism and encouragement of my elders has played an important part, whether I welcomed it at the time or not. Whatever I might have achieved certainly couldn't have happened without it.
My eldest son is 43, and so perhaps I do presume too much in treating adults as clueless toddlers in need of guidance and protection - in my own defence you'll eventually find yourself doing that too .
I recall that I had a detective sergeant on the Flying Squad who came with me to my mother's house for some reason. He was about 35 or something with a fearsome reputation amongst criminals and lots of experience . Anyway, my mother gave him cakes and sandwiches and later confided in me " He seems like a very nice little boy ". Of course, she meant him nothing but well, but I found it ridiculous at the time and perhaps I now find myself guilty of the same thing.
Nonetheless the fact remains that I have observed you develop greatly within the obviously limited context of these forums and I shall say so, even at the risk of causing offence. I notice small things which combine to tell a bigger story and I have also noted a far more important thing - that you are fundamentally a nice and decent person. Like all of us, you are on a journey and I'm telling you that whatever setbacks you may have encountered along the way you are definitely winning. Patronising or not , I'm usually right about these things.
You might notice that I don't hesitate too much in telling people they're on the wrong road if that's what I think because I've found that being wishy washy doesn't work. That's a duty, which I shall not shrink from in order to seem nice, but well justified praise is a pleasure.
Many people have relied upon me to make the right decisions for them down the years, which was not something I sought, but I ended up taking on the role and the end result is that I am indeed a dogmatic bossy old bastard who assumes that everyone will jump when I tell them too. Forgive me then if I seem patronising or smug - it's not my intention.