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Steve Hunt wrote:

Roy Twing wrote:

Steve Hunt wrote:Anyway, trying to get the thread back on topic.

Only a very small proportion of speakers on Radio 4’s Today programme are long-term supporters of leaving the EU, the Civitas think-tank said in a report.

The authors claimed the BBC has been unable to supply an example of a single programme since the June 2016 referendum which has examined the opportunities of Brexit.

Analysis finds that just 3.2% of guests talking about the EU on the Today Programme over ten-year period were pro-Brexit



https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5428081/b ... st-brexit/

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/camp ... -wtplg6rp0

Hillman's response should be moderately interesting.

Indeed, Roy.

Pretty damning, I'd say.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ecade.html

Civitas said pro-Brexit views have been under-represented on flagship BBC news programmes for decades.

In 274 hours of monitored BBC EU coverage between 2002 and 2017, only 14 speakers (0.2 per cent of the total) were Left-wing advocates for leaving the EU. These 14 contributors delivered 1,680 words, adding up to approximately 12 minutes.

In the same period two strongly pro-EU Tories, Ken Clarke and Michael Heseltine, made 28 appearances between them, with contributions totalling 11,208 words – over six times the amount of airtime allocated to all Left-wing Leave supporters.

The authors, David Keighley and Andrew Jubb, wrote: ‘When opinion in favour of leaving the EU has featured, the editorial approach has – at the expense of exploring withdrawal itself – tended heavily towards discrediting and denigrating opposition to the EU as xenophobic.




Ain't that the truth

Pretty much what you & I at least, have been saying for years, and of course, the bbc bias doesn't just begin and end with brexit views, - any view that is not the current politically correct stance is hammered out of the majority of the limelight.

From here:-

https://www.talkforum.co.uk/viewtopic.p ... start=1485

Roy Twing wrote:

Steve Hunt wrote:

Roy Twing wrote:

Steve Hunt wrote:Anyway, trying to get the thread back on topic.

Only a very small proportion of speakers on Radio 4’s Today programme are long-term supporters of leaving the EU, the Civitas think-tank said in a report.

The authors claimed the BBC has been unable to supply an example of a single programme since the June 2016 referendum which has examined the opportunities of Brexit.

Analysis finds that just 3.2% of guests talking about the EU on the Today Programme over ten-year period were pro-Brexit



https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5428081/b ... st-brexit/

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/camp ... -wtplg6rp0

Hillman's response should be moderately interesting.

Indeed, Roy.

Pretty damning, I'd say.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ecade.html

Civitas said pro-Brexit views have been under-represented on flagship BBC news programmes for decades.

In 274 hours of monitored BBC EU coverage between 2002 and 2017, only 14 speakers (0.2 per cent of the total) were Left-wing advocates for leaving the EU. These 14 contributors delivered 1,680 words, adding up to approximately 12 minutes.

In the same period two strongly pro-EU Tories, Ken Clarke and Michael Heseltine, made 28 appearances between them, with contributions totalling 11,208 words – over six times the amount of airtime allocated to all Left-wing Leave supporters.

The authors, David Keighley and Andrew Jubb, wrote: ‘When opinion in favour of leaving the EU has featured, the editorial approach has – at the expense of exploring withdrawal itself – tended heavily towards discrediting and denigrating opposition to the EU as xenophobic.




Ain't that the truth

Pretty much what you & I at least, have been saying for years, and of course, the bbc bias doesn't just begin and end with brexit views, - any view that is not the current politically correct stance is hammered out of the majority of the limelight.

Very true. Just because the BBC doesn't have it's newsreaders say "we hate the Tories, we love Labour", doesn't mean that it does not have a political agenda.

And thanks to Steve for moving the debate back on topic.

Darkyboy wrote: Very true. Just because the BBC doesn't have it's newsreaders say "we hate the Tories, we love Labour", doesn't mean that it does not have a political agenda.

I'd prefer it if they were (ie: like Jon Snow on C4), really.

As this article perfectly argues, the BBC's bias is way more subtle:


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/news ... rsion.html

I'd say that report was as close to concrete evidence of BBC / establishment bias as it's possible to get.

The thing that grates with me is that it takes years for one of these reports to establish what is blindingly obvious to many who observe it day in day out. A problem we encounter with almost everything really.

Steve Hunt wrote:

Darkyboy wrote: Very true. Just because the BBC doesn't have it's newsreaders say "we hate the Tories, we love Labour", doesn't mean that it does not have a political agenda.

I'd prefer it if they were (ie: like Jon Snow on C4), really.

As this article perfectly argues, the BBC's bias is way more subtle:


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/news ... rsion.html

That telegraph piece really does sum up the problem with the BBC very eloquently, this segment in particular hits the nail:

"The BBC’s bias – or disposition, if you want a less pejorative word – isn’t conscious. But we all bring our own dispositions to the work we do, and that’s as true of BBC journalists as it is of lawyers and plumbers. The BBC’s news simply reflects the mindset of its urban, culturally liberal staff.

I’m a lot less bothered by Mr Snow’s obvious, in your face, that’s-why-you’re-watching-me bias than I am by the BBC’s, which makes claims for its news as something altogether more elevated."

A pity so many on here seem to think that the BBC viewpoint is somehow all-encompassingly fair.

m4rkb wrote:I'd say that report was as close to concrete evidence of BBC / establishment bias as it's possible to get.

The thing that grates with me is that it takes years for one of these reports to establish what is blindingly obvious to many who observe it day in day out. A problem we encounter with almost everything really.

Yes, as some of us have long predicted, - the truth will probably surface eventually, but almost certainly (and almost certainly deliberately) only when the damage has long been done.

Roy Twing wrote:

m4rkb wrote:I'd say that report was as close to concrete evidence of BBC / establishment bias as it's possible to get.

The thing that grates with me is that it takes years for one of these reports to establish what is blindingly obvious to many who observe it day in day out. A problem we encounter with almost everything really.

Yes, as some of us have long predicted, - the truth will probably surface eventually, but almost certainly (and almost certainly deliberately) only when the damage has long been done.

Might as well lock the thread now then, gents.

Bias has been proven, as many of us always knew.

Game over

Good idea Steve. Can we knock off early as it's Friday?

Darkyboy wrote:

Roy Twing wrote:

Steve Hunt wrote:

Roy Twing wrote:

Steve Hunt wrote:Anyway, trying to get the thread back on topic.

Only a very small proportion of speakers on Radio 4’s Today programme are long-term supporters of leaving the EU, the Civitas think-tank said in a report.

The authors claimed the BBC has been unable to supply an example of a single programme since the June 2016 referendum which has examined the opportunities of Brexit.

Analysis finds that just 3.2% of guests talking about the EU on the Today Programme over ten-year period were pro-Brexit



https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5428081/b ... st-brexit/

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/camp ... -wtplg6rp0

Hillman's response should be moderately interesting.

Indeed, Roy.

Pretty damning, I'd say.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ecade.html

Civitas said pro-Brexit views have been under-represented on flagship BBC news programmes for decades.

In 274 hours of monitored BBC EU coverage between 2002 and 2017, only 14 speakers (0.2 per cent of the total) were Left-wing advocates for leaving the EU. These 14 contributors delivered 1,680 words, adding up to approximately 12 minutes.

In the same period two strongly pro-EU Tories, Ken Clarke and Michael Heseltine, made 28 appearances between them, with contributions totalling 11,208 words – over six times the amount of airtime allocated to all Left-wing Leave supporters.

The authors, David Keighley and Andrew Jubb, wrote: ‘When opinion in favour of leaving the EU has featured, the editorial approach has – at the expense of exploring withdrawal itself – tended heavily towards discrediting and denigrating opposition to the EU as xenophobic.




Ain't that the truth

Pretty much what you & I at least, have been saying for years, and of course, the bbc bias doesn't just begin and end with brexit views, - any view that is not the current politically correct stance is hammered out of the majority of the limelight.

Very true. Just because the BBC doesn't have it's newsreaders say "we hate the Tories, we love Labour", doesn't mean that it does not have a political agenda.

And thanks to Steve for moving the debate back on topic.

Plenty of BBC presenters/editors/management have previously of worked for the Conservative Party/right wing press (or both). And it’s not a rare event for a member of BBC staff to resign & so they can go & work for the Conservative Party.

Don’t believe everything you read in the Daily Mail Darkyboy. The BBC has a very cosy relationship with the Conservative Party & finds any excuse to invite on the likes of Nigel Farage.

Ralph wrote:

Darkyboy wrote:

Roy Twing wrote:

Steve Hunt wrote:

Roy Twing wrote:

Steve Hunt wrote:Anyway, trying to get the thread back on topic.

Only a very small proportion of speakers on Radio 4’s Today programme are long-term supporters of leaving the EU, the Civitas think-tank said in a report.

The authors claimed the BBC has been unable to supply an example of a single programme since the June 2016 referendum which has examined the opportunities of Brexit.

Analysis finds that just 3.2% of guests talking about the EU on the Today Programme over ten-year period were pro-Brexit



https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5428081/b ... st-brexit/

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/camp ... -wtplg6rp0

Hillman's response should be moderately interesting.

Indeed, Roy.

Pretty damning, I'd say.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ecade.html

Civitas said pro-Brexit views have been under-represented on flagship BBC news programmes for decades.

In 274 hours of monitored BBC EU coverage between 2002 and 2017, only 14 speakers (0.2 per cent of the total) were Left-wing advocates for leaving the EU. These 14 contributors delivered 1,680 words, adding up to approximately 12 minutes.

In the same period two strongly pro-EU Tories, Ken Clarke and Michael Heseltine, made 28 appearances between them, with contributions totalling 11,208 words – over six times the amount of airtime allocated to all Left-wing Leave supporters.

The authors, David Keighley and Andrew Jubb, wrote: ‘When opinion in favour of leaving the EU has featured, the editorial approach has – at the expense of exploring withdrawal itself – tended heavily towards discrediting and denigrating opposition to the EU as xenophobic.




Ain't that the truth

Pretty much what you & I at least, have been saying for years, and of course, the bbc bias doesn't just begin and end with brexit views, - any view that is not the current politically correct stance is hammered out of the majority of the limelight.

Very true. Just because the BBC doesn't have it's newsreaders say "we hate the Tories, we love Labour", doesn't mean that it does not have a political agenda.

And thanks to Steve for moving the debate back on topic.

Plenty of BBC presenters/editors/management have previously of worked for the Conservative Party/right wing press (or both). And it’s not a rare event for a member of BBC staff to resign & so they can go & work for the Conservative Party.

Don’t believe everything you read in the Daily Mail Darkyboy. The BBC has a very cosy relationship with the Conservative Party.

Only the Remain liberal part of it

Steve Hunt wrote:

Ralph wrote:

Darkyboy wrote:

Roy Twing wrote:

Steve Hunt wrote:

Roy Twing wrote:

Steve Hunt wrote:Anyway, trying to get the thread back on topic.

Only a very small proportion of speakers on Radio 4’s Today programme are long-term supporters of leaving the EU, the Civitas think-tank said in a report.

The authors claimed the BBC has been unable to supply an example of a single programme since the June 2016 referendum which has examined the opportunities of Brexit.

Analysis finds that just 3.2% of guests talking about the EU on the Today Programme over ten-year period were pro-Brexit



https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5428081/b ... st-brexit/

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/camp ... -wtplg6rp0

Hillman's response should be moderately interesting.

Indeed, Roy.

Pretty damning, I'd say.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ecade.html

Civitas said pro-Brexit views have been under-represented on flagship BBC news programmes for decades.

In 274 hours of monitored BBC EU coverage between 2002 and 2017, only 14 speakers (0.2 per cent of the total) were Left-wing advocates for leaving the EU. These 14 contributors delivered 1,680 words, adding up to approximately 12 minutes.

In the same period two strongly pro-EU Tories, Ken Clarke and Michael Heseltine, made 28 appearances between them, with contributions totalling 11,208 words – over six times the amount of airtime allocated to all Left-wing Leave supporters.

The authors, David Keighley and Andrew Jubb, wrote: ‘When opinion in favour of leaving the EU has featured, the editorial approach has – at the expense of exploring withdrawal itself – tended heavily towards discrediting and denigrating opposition to the EU as xenophobic.




Ain't that the truth

Pretty much what you & I at least, have been saying for years, and of course, the bbc bias doesn't just begin and end with brexit views, - any view that is not the current politically correct stance is hammered out of the majority of the limelight.

Very true. Just because the BBC doesn't have it's newsreaders say "we hate the Tories, we love Labour", doesn't mean that it does not have a political agenda.

And thanks to Steve for moving the debate back on topic.

Plenty of BBC presenters/editors/management have previously of worked for the Conservative Party/right wing press (or both). And it’s not a rare event for a member of BBC staff to resign & so they can go & work for the Conservative Party.

Don’t believe everything you read in the Daily Mail Darkyboy. The BBC has a very cosy relationship with the Conservative Party.

Only the Remain liberal part of it

Cobblers.

Boris, Gove & David Davis, Jacob Rees-Mogg etc appear on air as often as they want to. They even dig up the likes of Lord Norman Lamont & Lord Nigel Lawson to give them softball interviews on how wonderful Brexit is.

If the BBC is so virulently anti Brexit supporting politicians what’s the explanation for their strange relationship with Nigel Farage. He’s no longer Ukip leader yet he’s still omnipresent on the BBC airwaves. He spends more time in BBC studios than he does in his own home. Which other MEP gets even a fraction of the airtime he does.

Poor old Ralph. Another dismal attempt to derail the thread I would imagine. That went well last time didn't it. But, as you are still on ignore I will not get to read your drivel.

The usual BBC brexit mouthpieces are totally pre-scripted and as dull as dishwater whereas Farage isn't. He says what a majority think (hence why Leave won) Even the BBC wouldn't have the audacity to deny him airtime and hand it all over to ITV etc. That'd prove bias even more obviously than is evident already.

Plus there's the other oft stated reason that the overwhelming amount of BBC lefties believe He could split the right wing vote and allow their preferred choice of a red flag waving trot to prevail. Unfortunately they underestimated the will of the people and how much actual influence the BBC propaganda actual has.

Their current obsession with trans and mixed race families is also widely seen as propaganda and unrealistic but when they surround themselves with academia their view of the real world might come as a bit of a shock if they were ever to enter it.

Steve Hunt wrote:

Roy Twing wrote:

m4rkb wrote:I'd say that report was as close to concrete evidence of BBC / establishment bias as it's possible to get.

The thing that grates with me is that it takes years for one of these reports to establish what is blindingly obvious to many who observe it day in day out. A problem we encounter with almost everything really.

Yes, as some of us have long predicted, - the truth will probably surface eventually, but almost certainly (and almost certainly deliberately) only when the damage has long been done.

Might as well lock the thread now then, gents.

Bias has been proven, as many of us always knew.

Game over

If only eh?
Some will never accept that the BBC is biased, short of an affidavit signed by the entire bbc board of governors together with all members of parliament and the Lords.

Oh, and not forgetting that it would need to be underwritten by saint dimbleby.