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Re: T.V advertising

Postby genehunt1973 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:08 pm

Roy Twing wrote:Food for thought.
Although I rarely watch tv (much less adverts) these days, one of the most blatant bits of 'brainwashing' (for want of a better word) in, it seems, all adverts of late, is the fact that in advert land, every family and group of friends is now multi-cultural/racial, - just like in the real world, eh folks?
I assume there is some sort of advertisers' (and of course broadcasters, it seems) code of conduct which stipulates the makeup of such groups (to what end I can only speculate)
When you sit back and think about it, it is frightening just how easily a society on the whole can be manipulated.

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Postby Reg » Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:37 pm

If “people” are so easily brainwashed, how come threads like this are full of people saying ads are unconvincing and unrealistic?

And how come other threads are packed full of comments about how nobody believes anything in the mainstream media, etc?

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Re: T.V advertising

Postby The Ghost of Alex Higgins » Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:39 pm

Because "people" are actually ROBOTS
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Postby Rossco » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:54 pm

Don't watch TV anymore..... As in live TV. Hardly see adverts apart from when in someone else's house. They partly annoy me and some are interesting to decode .

Not saying every ad but some have much more than meets the eye......but then ads work more on the subconscious mind.....I think everyone here could agree on that much.

Here is a good example of how ads can work.....LG ad....60 second long....cost for a Super Bowl ad for 30 seconds in 2016 was $5 million dollars.....so to get it screened alone cost 10 million. Had an A list actor....few more million and Ridley Scott directed it.....more money.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/busi ... 55426.html

https://www.campaignlive.co.uk/article/ ... ad/1381788

Now here is where it gets interesting and will cut the wheat from the chaff.....

The ad itself....



A very well explained and deeper look behind this advert that cost many millions to make and air.



Like I say....not all adverts need decoding but many carry another meaning as well as the surface level that most of the masses just see and take for granted.
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Re: T.V advertising

Postby Roy Twing » Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:32 pm

Zambo wrote:
Roy Twing wrote:
Zambo wrote:ffs Roy, is this the first thing you think about when judging everything in life. Do you actually count the number of non-white people wherever you go? :roll:


Well, I must say, I expected that reaction from the usual apologists zambo, but you have surprised me.
Perhaps you could comment as to whether my observation is justified or not, and then debate it, rather than this silly ad hominem knee-jerk reaction that is engendered to kill such debate.

Roy, it was a genuine question. You seem to find a way of bringing multiculturalism into almost every thread. You often call those who disagree with you blinkered, but just try and see how your posts look to others, and make some allowance for and be tolerant, of that. So there are some black people, they may also be gay, in tv adverts. If you look through your window you may well see some out and about in the street just going about their daily business. Surely recognising that this is the norm isn't being brainwashed.

If you are saying there is some over-representation, quota fulfilling, and prejudice, let's have some backup.



I think some posters should ask themselves why they have a knee-jerk reaction when someone brings up the muliticulturalism/mass immigration subject, even if that someone is someone like me who, I admit, regards the topic as a top issue. They should ask themselves why that knee jerk reaction doesn't kick in in the same way when other posters seem to bring their 'specialist subjects' into many threads (ralph & anti-tory; or steve and pro-brexit come to mind). Yes, I do bring it up often because I do believe it is not only one of the most important social issues of our time, but more importantly, as you've demonstrated, one of the most difficult to actually debate.

Anyway, you then seem to be suggesting that advert land is actually representative (racially) of our society today, which, of course, is ridiculous, unless I'm wrong, and only around 10% or so of all adverts show mixed race couples and groups (which is easily provable just by watching itv for an evening), or that non-whites make up at least 50% of the population - which is it?
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Re: T.V advertising

Postby Zambo » Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:39 pm

Roy Twing wrote:
Zambo wrote:
Roy Twing wrote:
Zambo wrote:ffs Roy, is this the first thing you think about when judging everything in life. Do you actually count the number of non-white people wherever you go? :roll:


Well, I must say, I expected that reaction from the usual apologists zambo, but you have surprised me.
Perhaps you could comment as to whether my observation is justified or not, and then debate it, rather than this silly ad hominem knee-jerk reaction that is engendered to kill such debate.

Roy, it was a genuine question. You seem to find a way of bringing multiculturalism into almost every thread. You often call those who disagree with you blinkered, but just try and see how your posts look to others, and make some allowance for and be tolerant, of that. So there are some black people, they may also be gay, in tv adverts. If you look through your window you may well see some out and about in the street just going about their daily business. Surely recognising that this is the norm isn't being brainwashed.

If you are saying there is some over-representation, quota fulfilling, and prejudice, let's have some backup.



I think some posters should ask themselves why they have a knee-jerk reaction when someone brings up the muliticulturalism/mass immigration subject, even if that someone is someone like me who, I admit, regards the topic as a top issue. They should ask themselves why that knee jerk reaction doesn't kick in in the same way when other posters seem to bring their 'specialist subjects' into many threads (ralph & anti-tory; or steve and pro-brexit come to mind). Yes, I do bring it up often because I do believe it is not only one of the most important social issues of our time, but more importantly, as you've demonstrated, one of the most difficult to actually debate.

Anyway, you then seem to be suggesting that advert land is actually representative (racially) of our society today, which, of course, is ridiculous, unless I'm wrong, and only around 10% or so of all adverts show mixed race couples and groups (which is easily provable just by watching itv for an evening), or that non-whites make up at least 50% of the population - which is it?


It's not a knee jerk reaction when you bring it into every thread that you can. And anyway, does it really matter who appears in tv ads, it's about the product surely, not the people advertising it.
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Re: T.V advertising

Postby Reg » Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:41 pm

The Ghost of Alex Higgins wrote:Because "people" are actually ROBOTS


Robots pretending to be un-brainwashed, free-thinking people, in order to brainwash us into thinking that the world is full of critical-minded, un-brainwashed people, so as to brainwash us into thinking that we too are not brainwashed, and thus leaving us wide open to being brainwashed?

:-k

Put like that, it all makes sense.
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Re: T.V advertising

Postby JW90 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:41 pm

How is TV advertising supposed to reflect reality? We've got building societies offering mortgages to cartoon cats.

Which adverts feature these families, anyway?

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Postby Reg » Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:45 pm

JW90 wrote:How is TV advertising supposed to reflect reality? We've got building societies offering mortgages to cartoon cats.


You’re deliberately twisting things - they offer mortgages to cartoon humans too, like the Flintstones.

Well maybe cartoon neanderthals, but anyway, you get the point.

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Postby Lou Grant » Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:07 pm

Roy Twing wrote:Anyway, you then seem to be suggesting that advert land is actually representative (racially) of our society today, which, of course, is ridiculous, unless I'm wrong, and only around 10% or so of all adverts show mixed race couples and groups (which is easily provable just by watching itv for an evening), or that non-whites make up at least 50% of the population - which is it?

And there we see the flaw in all that you post.
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Re: T.V advertising

Postby Rossco » Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:32 pm

All media in all it's forms influences on a level, if even only in the subconscious mind.

To not believe or understand that much is just plain dumb. And not have any understanding of how the brain works lol
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Re: T.V advertising

Postby Roy Twing » Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:34 pm

Lou Grant wrote:
Roy Twing wrote:Anyway, you then seem to be suggesting that advert land is actually representative (racially) of our society today, which, of course, is ridiculous, unless I'm wrong, and only around 10% or so of all adverts show mixed race couples and groups (which is easily provable just by watching itv for an evening), or that non-whites make up at least 50% of the population - which is it?

And there we see the flaw in all that you post.


Prove it then my sarcastic chum - choose a time slot or two and count the adverts with groups or couples appearing in them, and report back, there's a good troll.
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Re: T.V advertising

Postby Lou Grant » Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:40 pm

No, you are the one making an assertion about these ads. You started the thread. Bring us your evidence. Watch a day's worth of TV, log all the adverts and present your findings backed up with evidence that can be peer reviewed. Otherwise STFU.
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Re: T.V advertising

Postby Zambo » Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:01 pm

Roy Twing wrote:
Lou Grant wrote:
Roy Twing wrote:Anyway, you then seem to be suggesting that advert land is actually representative (racially) of our society today, which, of course, is ridiculous, unless I'm wrong, and only around 10% or so of all adverts show mixed race couples and groups (which is easily provable just by watching itv for an evening), or that non-whites make up at least 50% of the population - which is it?

And there we see the flaw in all that you post.


Prove it then my sarcastic chum - choose a time slot or two and count the adverts with groups or couples appearing in them, and report back, there's a good troll.


You said society is being manipulated by the multicultural content of tv ads. Can you tell us what you mean by that.
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Re: T.V advertising

Postby Roy Twing » Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:46 pm

Lou Grant wrote:No, you are the one making an assertion about these ads. You started the thread. Bring us your evidence. Watch a day's worth of TV, log all the adverts and present your findings backed up with evidence that can be peer reviewed. Otherwise STFU.


No - the evidence is there for all to see - you are the one denying that evidence.
Bring us your counter evidence my sarcastic chum.
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