Alfie Evans

[Basualdo]

Then what exactly are they objecting to? Taking him to another medical facilty?

I agree it will probably not do a whit of good, but if they are willing to let him go home but not to another clinic or hospital then it tends to point towards professional umbrage. Not good.

If there’s a non quack clinic offering something different/better then fine. Flying him to Italy to get palliative care is just fucking bonkers, sorry.

I agree, it probably is. But if they want to do it and the hospital doesn't have to meet the cost, then let them. The kid is dead.

[Ralph]

Then what exactly are they objecting to? Taking him to another medical facilty?

I agree it will probably not do a whit of good, but if they are willing to let him go home but not to another clinic or hospital then it tends to point towards professional umbrage. Not good.

If there’s a non quack clinic offering something different/better then fine. Flying him to Italy to get palliative care is just fucking bonkers, sorry.

I agree, it probably is. But if they want to do it and the hospital doesn't have to meet the cost, then let them. The kid is dead.

He’s terminally ill with a degenerative brain disorder. It can’t be in his best interests to spend his last days being transported around to placate American political activists who want to make a point the evils of ‘socialized medicine’ regardless of the facts of this case.

If a doctor/clinic had something to offer Alfie Evans that the NHS couldn’t, or there was some genuine doubt about his condition that would be entirely different.

[Carlos J]

Dead. RIP little chap: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43933056

One hopes the parents can grieve without others getting involved.

[Two Crows]

Dead. RIP little chap: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43933056

One hopes the parents can grieve without others getting involved.

RIP

[Ralph]

Dead. RIP little chap: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43933056

One hopes the parents can grieve without others getting involved.

Agreed.

The parents were just desperate to help their terminally ill son. Totally understandable. It’s the politically motivated bandwagon jumpers who’ve behaved unforgivably.

Very sad.

[Hillman avenger]

The US political activists who got involved, seeking to defame our healthcare system, should realise...

If Alfie had been in the US, and spent 18 months in hospital, using state-of-the-art technology to try to diagnose and treat him, his parents would have been bankrupt a long time ago.

I very much hope they can grieve and conduct his funeral in peace and with dignity without the mob deciding to get involved.

[Royal24s]

The poor child is in the hands of God now.

I intended to take up the previous poster's point about the supremacy of the NHS death panels, but it's too horrible.

If nothing else, perhaps just a few people will now wake up to the true nature of Statism. Those who do not have slept through the alarm clock.

[carcinogen]

Surely there is a room at the Schumacher's?

[Eaststand]

The poor child is in the hands of God now.

I intended to take up the previous poster's point about the supremacy of the NHS death panels, but it's too horrible.

If nothing else, perhaps just a few people will now wake up to the true nature of Statism. Those who do not have slept through the alarm clock.

Genuinely dont think this is a good example of that.

[delboy1983]

The poor child is in the hands of God now.

I intended to take up the previous poster's point about the supremacy of the NHS death panels, but it's too horrible.

If nothing else, perhaps just a few people will now wake up to the true nature of Statism. Those who do not have slept through the alarm clock.

Genuinely dont think this is a good example of that.

Agreed ! RIP little man

[m4 colin]

Theres a lot wrong with the NHS But at least you can go to your doctors / Hospital and say I've got this! could you have a look ? Without being bankrupted If you are poor to lower middle income
I doubt you could get a better deal anywhere in the world

[Eaststand]

Quite. Our country is fucking shite, but the NHS is fucking amazing and admired around the world.

[JimmyDee]

... the NHS is fucking amazing and admired around the world.

I don't see too many countries trying to copy it.

[Ralph]

Theres a lot wrong with the NHS But at least you can go to your doctors / Hospital and say I've got this! could you have a look ? Without being bankrupted If you are poor to lower middle income
I doubt you could get a better deal anywhere in the world

Absolutely right. Healthcare should be based on need not ability to pay. The American healthcare system is an inefficient, profit motivated, nightmare. It’s a system designed to make profits for shareholders of insurance companies. Any attempt to change to a fairer, more efficient system is fought tooth & nail by the insurance industry who have massive influence.

[carcinogen]

I know Italy is an economic basket case but when I was living there a mate from America came over and fucked himself up riding his bike (broken shoulder, etc. etc.). The Italian healthcare system patched him up and sent him on his merry way. No questions asked. He couldn't fucking get over it. To this day he is still befuddled by the whole affair. If the same thing had happened to him in the US he'd be looking at a 25k bill if he didn't have adequent insurance. The point of this story? If you're fucked-up and need help, fly to Italy! haha.