State Broadcaster goes after Elderly poor

[Jon Gout]

Interesting how the elderly don't mind voting for the Tories and more cuts as long as they're not the ones affected. As soon as they are they start kicking off. Not at all surprising from the "Me me me!" generation.

[Hillman avenger]

Wrong as ever.
When the licence fee agreement was made, the BBC said it couldn't guarantee the scheme for all people in this rapidly-growing group.
It was also expected to pay for the World Service, paid for before by the Foreign Office.
It has set it up now so that the poorest over-75s can still have it free.
It's sad to see how many people want the BBC gone. Another element of democracy being attacked. Imagine a world where political journalism is reduced to the kind of "interviews" Piers Morgan gave Trump. He was so far up his arse he needed a torch.

[Roy Twing]

Wrong as ever.
When the licence fee agreement was made, the BBC said it couldn't guarantee the scheme for all people in this rapidly-growing group.
It was also expected to pay for the World Service, paid for before by the Foreign Office.
It has set it up now so that the poorest over-75s can still have it free.
It's sad to see how many people want the BBC gone. Another element of democracy being attacked. Imagine a world where political journalism is reduced to the kind of "interviews" Piers Morgan gave Trump. He was so far up his arse he needed a torch.

Unlike probably every BBC interview/report of the likes of obama eh?
As ever though, - the difference is that I'm not forced to contribute to Morgan's wages, unlike everyone at the BBC.

[kancutlawns]

Wrong as ever.
When the licence fee agreement was made, the BBC said it couldn't guarantee the scheme for all people in this rapidly-growing group.
It was also expected to pay for the World Service, paid for before by the Foreign Office.
It has set it up now so that the poorest over-75s can still have it free.
It's sad to see how many people want the BBC gone. Another element of democracy being attacked. Imagine a world where political journalism is reduced to the kind of "interviews" Piers Morgan gave Trump. He was so far up his arse he needed a torch.

Can’t they just bin BBC1, 5Live and keep the minority channels? What purpose does BBC1 actually serve? Sick of the exposure that Campbell, VD, Burden, Livesey and the other preening, workshy, smug tossers get. Do you really think that there is any quality in the endless supply of old sitcoms, cookery programmes and daytime dross?

People in faraway backwaters probably don’t actually give a shit about some Oxbridge educated twat from Salford going and patronising them. Would you if you lived in Zambia, Vietnam or Columbia actually have any respect for Tony fucking Liversey turning up at your mudflat to ask if you wanted soya milk or semi skinned with your Coco Pops?

The Beeb is a busted flush full of cunts and this is from someone who grew up watching the Beeb as a reputable broadcaster.

[kancutlawns]

@Roy. Get with it Granddad. Obama left office three years ago FFS.

[Royal24s]

Wrong as ever.
When the licence fee agreement was made, the BBC said it couldn't guarantee the scheme for all people in this rapidly-growing group.
It was also expected to pay for the World Service, paid for before by the Foreign Office.
It has set it up now so that the poorest over-75s can still have it free.
It's sad to see how many people want the BBC gone. Another element of democracy being attacked. Imagine a world where political journalism is reduced to the kind of "interviews" Piers Morgan gave Trump. He was so far up his arse he needed a torch.

Can't just keep telling the majority of people they're wrong about everything you know.
Just as the majority like Donald Trump, the majority don't want the BBC and its licence fee, so how do you justify over ruling them ?
Seems to me that socialists think they've got some special right to rule over people whether they like it or not .

[Jon Gout]

190,000 people were consulted on the change, 52% of them were in favour of reforming or abolishing free licence scheme.

Should they do another vote on it?

[birdie]

Wrong as ever.
When the licence fee agreement was made, the BBC said it couldn't guarantee the scheme for all people in this rapidly-growing group.
It was also expected to pay for the World Service, paid for before by the Foreign Office.
It has set it up now so that the poorest over-75s can still have it free.
It's sad to see how many people want the BBC gone. Another element of democracy being attacked. Imagine a world where political journalism is reduced to the kind of "interviews" Piers Morgan gave Trump. He was so far up his arse he needed a torch.

And that is, IMO only of course, the crux of the matter, I don't seem able to find the figure now but I saw a figure for how much the scheme cost when it was started and it was less than half the cost now, and was borne by the Exchequer, that figure has now increased because, and who would have thought that the elderly had the gall to do it, the older population is living longer, just how dare they.

As with anything where the cost is transferred to someone else, they don't want to bear it, and I do see the BBC's point, but I do have to laff a little at their hand wringing about not being able to afford all of it when cost cutting doesn't seem to be in their lexicon, their new EastEnders set is costing £87m . £27m over budget and 5 years late, no cost cutting there is seems, and all for just one programme, and look at the farce when it relocated to some a new state of the art facilities in Salford, where a desk cost £3k, no cost cutting there, and look at the daft situation with some of highly paid staff, the husband of actress Sarah Lancashire is some big knob there but she refused to move from Twickenham or somewhere around there, so the BBC was (don't know if they still do) was paying around 70 grand to rent him a home. they also, it was reported, paid out tens of millions for relocations costs to staff who never relocated but stayed where they were and just claimed for travel and accommodation, no cost cutting there, and the same happened when they transferred a Sunday morning programme to Belfast, all the guests and presenters where from . mainly, England and used to fly over on the Saturday and return after the programme aired, no cost cutting there, same when the Friday night episode of Newsnight transferred to Scotland, same thing, all the guests from London or the SE, travel paid for and overnight exes, so you will forgive me when I don't wear their handwringing that they can't afford something.

As I said before, most people who want to watch a particular programme won't mind if it is presented by a pundit on £200k or less rather than nearly £2m, same with some other programmes, I don't give a toss whether Gove is interviewed by Marr (£400k) or by someone on a quarter of that, all his question are fed him through the earpiece anyway so a box on the wall would do just as well.



Moving to Salford won’t come cheap. Costs include £170m for rent by 2030, £218m for the TV studio services and £15m on the radio and orchestra studios. Furnishing the BBC’s MediaCity offices will cost £37m – including £6.8m for 2,253 desks or workspaces at £3,000 each – with three bespoke adjustable desks billed at £77,000 and chairs, sofas, art, tables and screens budgeted to cost £120,000.The total bill could be close to £900m – although the BBC says that is an “early estimate”. The corporation is hoping to reduce the costs by selling its Manchester headquarters and a £20m grant from Salford council.
https://www.building.co.uk/focus/media- ... 36.article

[birdie]

190,000 people were consulted on the change, 52% of them were in favour of reforming or abolishing free licence scheme.

Should they do another vote on it?

Any indication of how many of those were over 75?

[Jon Gout]

Scrapxit means scrapxit.

[Royal24s]

Wrong as ever.
When the licence fee agreement was made, the BBC said it couldn't guarantee the scheme for all people in this rapidly-growing group.
It was also expected to pay for the World Service, paid for before by the Foreign Office.
It has set it up now so that the poorest over-75s can still have it free.
It's sad to see how many people want the BBC gone. Another element of democracy being attacked. Imagine a world where political journalism is reduced to the kind of "interviews" Piers Morgan gave Trump. He was so far up his arse he needed a torch.

Can't just keep telling the majority of people they're wrong about everything you know.
Just as the majority like Donald Trump, the majority don't want the BBC and its licence fee, so how do you justify over ruling them ?
Seems to me that socialists think they've got some special right to rule over people whether they like it or not .

Further to that, it occurs to me that there's something wrong at the BBC when, despite the money they spend, they're not considered to be sufficiently impartial or reputable now to even get an interview with a democratically elected leader .
They don't represent a balanced view themselves and they ignore the views of the majority of people who have to pay to employ them.
That's why Piers Morgan got the gig and that's why the BBC had to pay ITV for clips of the interview they couldn't get because of their poor reputation.

[Jon Gout]

Or, in reality, that was because Trump knows Morgan would lick between his toes if he demanded it.

Didn't exactly grill him about anything, did he? It felt like one of those generic film promotion interviews filmed in a hotel suite. He even had Trump pose in a silly prop hat.

[birdie]

Wrong as ever.
When the licence fee agreement was made, the BBC said it couldn't guarantee the scheme for all people in this rapidly-growing group.
It was also expected to pay for the World Service, paid for before by the Foreign Office.
It has set it up now so that the poorest over-75s can still have it free.
It's sad to see how many people want the BBC gone. Another element of democracy being attacked. Imagine a world where political journalism is reduced to the kind of "interviews" Piers Morgan gave Trump. He was so far up his arse he needed a torch.

Can't just keep telling the majority of people they're wrong about everything you know.
Just as the majority like Donald Trump, the majority don't want the BBC and its licence fee, so how do you justify over ruling them ?
Seems to me that socialists think they've got some special right to rule over people whether they like it or not .

Further to that, it occurs to me that there's something wrong at the BBC when,despite the money they spend, they're not considered to be sufficiently impartial or reputable now to even get an interview with a democratically elected leader .
They don't represent a balanced view themselves and they ignore the views of the majority of people who have to pay to employ them.
That's why Piers Morgan got the gig and that's why the BBC had to pay ITV for clips of the interview they couldn't get because of their poor reputation.

I have noticed over recent years the impartiality of the BBC disappearing faster than a rabbit down a hole, especially when it comes to Brexit, almost all of the political interviews seem to be so biased against anyone who favours Brexit yet seem to lick the boots of any 'remainers'. It seems as though the BBC Charter is being ignored, especially the bit about the BBC being impartial.

[kancutlawns]

Couldn’t really give a fuck about regurgitated, bitter griping from elderly, bad tempered Conservative voters about impartiality. Rather peeved with the shite, vanilla quality of the presenters, cunts like Balding, Ramesh R, Nadiya, Sue Perkins and Mrs fucking Brown who get out into all manner of shows even though they have a profound limitation in whatever core presenting skills they may have.

If we had wall to wall rabidly xenophobic shows instead would ‘the other side’ I bet the usual suspects here wouldn’t be constantly whining day in day out about it.

[Darkyboy]

If the BBC was a subscription service at around £3 a week, it would represent good value. But the idea that you should automatically tax people that amount is appalling. Especially when the BBC makes great play of it's impartiality, when it clearly isn't.