Roy Twing wrote:m4rkb wrote:I've been listening to the rolling news of this 'dramatic' event now for nearly two hours in the hope it might tell me something and I've learned absolutely nothing whatsoever that I didn't know upon the first headline.
We've been here before when the actual news is being withheld due to certain sensitivities in telling the truth.
At a guess, the perpetrator is a muslim, and a bad one at that, who has previously drunk plenty of booze, gambled, had illicit sex including bigamy, went to night clubs and most probably has homosexual tendencies, or something in the same vein.
Even the prophet Muhammad himself said he, in all his 'purity', could not guarantee his own passage to heaven and the Koran backs him up with not a single verse to say a virtuous life is that passage.
But it does tell you a definite passage to heaven regardless of what you have done before and however bad it was. That route is through jihad which is what most of these idiots adhere to.
It is the only guaranteed passage to heaven laid down in the Koran.
At another guess, I'd say this nutjob has been coerced into this by others.
Now as a defence to decent muslims, they do not believe this at all unless they are so entrenched in extremism which is why they have to rely on so many radicalised converts.
Unsurprisingly, - I've just been reading various news sites and there is a word beginning with 'M' that is conspicuously difficult to find in most of those I looked at.
If the perpetrator had been white british, you can be certain that the words 'far right' would have been wall to ceiling.
Yep. There would be no holding back waiting for facts to emerge. They would come out with it straight away that he was a white supremacist. When they hold back like this you instantly know what the well trodden narrative is. 'It's too early to speculate , we don't know the motive, we don't know the background of the attacker, the motive remains unknown, it's got nothing to do with Islam.
I made that comment above knowing virtually nothing at the time. I usually do in circumstances like this as an educated guess is usually about 95% right and has the added advantage of making the denialists look foolish when a dart thrown in the dark then hits the bull . One difference here from the many other previous examples is he wasn't a convert or someone who flouted his religious values only to hope for redemption through jihad. He just happened to be a hardcore jihadist who should have been locked up.
I guess with the estimated 22,000 active jihadists in Britain they know about plus those returning from IS who they prefer no to mention , we'll just have to get used to more of this and invent some new excuses on their behalf.
