Be clear what you are voting for tomorrow

[Hillman avenger]

Think carefully...

If you vote Tory, you will NOT be "Getting Brexit Done".
That is for 2020 and there must be an 80% chance of it resulting in a no deal exit.
Which will disable our economy for generations.

One of the MANY issues not discussed ( or on my town's case, discussed by our MP who demonstrated his failure to understand) is that :

WE NEED an EU deal. It represents half our current trade. No deal would cause massive damage to certain industries, agriculture and fisheries amongst them.

But the EU will not let us trade as we are now once we are not members. They WILL , though , expect any of our exports to comply with regulation ( though that will be regulation we will have no say in, and which most critically will expose services exports). Tariffs are far less of an issue. Paperwork, once outside the customs union, will absorb much resource and be enough to prevent some small firms from even trying to.

So even if we got a deal, we could never get anywhere like the level of business we have now.

SO we would need another substantial trade deal. Forget ANZAC- peanuts and already sewn up by China. Forget China; Germany is already their top partner ( EU member or not).

NO it is the US. But the regulation- or lack of it- that the US would expect would directly conflict with that which the EU expects. GM foods would be one small example.

THEY ARE INCOMPATIBLE.

So there is NO WAY we can do both. There is NO WAY we can even do either in one year, unless we roll over and accept all their demands. Whatever route unfolds, economic disaster awaits.

[Saints11]

Think carefully...

If you vote Tory, you will NOT be "Getting Brexit Done".
That is for 2020 and there must be an 80% chance of it resulting in a no deal exit.
Which will disable our economy for generations.

One of the MANY issues not discussed ( or on my town's case, discussed by our MP who demonstrated his failure to understand) is that :

WE NEED an EU deal. It represents half our current trade. No deal would cause massive damage to certain industries, agriculture and fisheries amongst them.

But the EU will not let us trade as we are now once we are not members. They WILL , though , expect any of our exports to comply with regulation ( though that will be regulation we will have no say in, and which most critically will expose services exports). Tariffs are far less of an issue. Paperwork, once outside the customs union, will absorb much resource and be enough to prevent some small firms from even trying to.

So even if we got a deal, we could never get anywhere like the level of business we have now.

SO we would need another substantial trade deal. Forget ANZAC- peanuts and already sewn up by China. Forget China; Germany is already their top partner ( EU member or not).

NO it is the US. But the regulation- or lack of it- that the US would expect would directly conflict with that which the EU expects. GM foods would be one small example.

THEY ARE INCOMPATIBLE.

So there is NO WAY we can do both. There is NO WAY we can even do either in one year, unless we roll over and accept all their demands. Whatever route unfolds, economic disaster awaits.

Who are you voting for and why?

[Zippy]

Beats voting for a fringe, anti-semitic crank, to be fair.

[shivah]

Beats voting for a fringe, anti-semitic crank, to be fair.

You mean Boris Johnson?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 39346.html

[LaaLaa]

Anyone but the Tories.

[subsub]

Think carefully...

If you vote Tory, you will NOT be "Getting Brexit Done".
That is for 2020 and there must be an 80% chance of it resulting in a no deal exit.
Which will disable our economy for generations.

One of the MANY issues not discussed ( or on my town's case, discussed by our MP who demonstrated his failure to understand) is that :

WE NEED an EU deal. It represents half our current trade. No deal would cause massive damage to certain industries, agriculture and fisheries amongst them.

But the EU will not let us trade as we are now once we are not members. They WILL , though , expect any of our exports to comply with regulation ( though that will be regulation we will have no say in, and which most critically will expose services exports). Tariffs are far less of an issue. Paperwork, once outside the customs union, will absorb much resource and be enough to prevent some small firms from even trying to.

So even if we got a deal, we could never get anywhere like the level of business we have now.

SO we would need another substantial trade deal. Forget ANZAC- peanuts and already sewn up by China. Forget China; Germany is already their top partner ( EU member or not).

NO it is the US. But the regulation- or lack of it- that the US would expect would directly conflict with that which the EU expects. GM foods would be one small example.

THEY ARE INCOMPATIBLE.

So there is NO WAY we can do both. There is NO WAY we can even do either in one year, unless we roll over and accept all their demands. Whatever route unfolds, economic disaster awaits.

Brilliant post, Hillman. If only more people realised this…

[Zambo]

It's more that I'm clear what I'm not voting for Hillman.

[Hillman avenger]

Think carefully...

If you vote Tory, you will NOT be "Getting Brexit Done".
That is for 2020 and there must be an 80% chance of it resulting in a no deal exit.
Which will disable our economy for generations.

One of the MANY issues not discussed ( or on my town's case, discussed by our MP who demonstrated his failure to understand) is that :

WE NEED an EU deal. It represents half our current trade. No deal would cause massive damage to certain industries, agriculture and fisheries amongst them.

But the EU will not let us trade as we are now once we are not members. They WILL , though , expect any of our exports to comply with regulation ( though that will be regulation we will have no say in, and which most critically will expose services exports). Tariffs are far less of an issue. Paperwork, once outside the customs union, will absorb much resource and be enough to prevent some small firms from even trying to.

So even if we got a deal, we could never get anywhere like the level of business we have now.

SO we would need another substantial trade deal. Forget ANZAC- peanuts and already sewn up by China. Forget China; Germany is already their top partner ( EU member or not).

NO it is the US. But the regulation- or lack of it- that the US would expect would directly conflict with that which the EU expects. GM foods would be one small example.

THEY ARE INCOMPATIBLE.

So there is NO WAY we can do both. There is NO WAY we can even do either in one year, unless we roll over and accept all their demands. Whatever route unfolds, economic disaster awaits.

Who are you voting for and why?

I think stopping Johnson is out of the question.
Labour have repeatedly made the wrong choices when a decent opposition could have shown what a shambles this lot are.
In my constituency the Tory MP is ignorant and complacent. In the recent ranking of MPs in engaging with their constituencies he was placed 611 out of 650.
So I will vote to register rejection of him and Johnson.
Of the other two the Liberal is stronger but Labour appears to have more chance so I will go there. For all my reservations about Labour and how it is run.
But am very pessimistic.

[Roy Twing]

Think carefully...

If you vote Tory, you will NOT be "Getting Brexit Done".
That is for 2020 and there must be an 80% chance of it resulting in a no deal exit.
Which will disable our economy for generations.

One of the MANY issues not discussed ( or on my town's case, discussed by our MP who demonstrated his failure to understand) is that :

WE NEED an EU deal. It represents half our current trade. No deal would cause massive damage to certain industries, agriculture and fisheries amongst them.

But the EU will not let us trade as we are now once we are not members. They WILL , though , expect any of our exports to comply with regulation ( though that will be regulation we will have no say in, and which most critically will expose services exports). Tariffs are far less of an issue. Paperwork, once outside the customs union, will absorb much resource and be enough to prevent some small firms from even trying to.

So even if we got a deal, we could never get anywhere like the level of business we have now.

SO we would need another substantial trade deal. Forget ANZAC- peanuts and already sewn up by China. Forget China; Germany is already their top partner ( EU member or not).

NO it is the US. But the regulation- or lack of it- that the US would expect would directly conflict with that which the EU expects. GM foods would be one small example.

THEY ARE INCOMPATIBLE.

So there is NO WAY we can do both. There is NO WAY we can even do either in one year, unless we roll over and accept all their demands. Whatever route unfolds, economic disaster awaits.

The above was a party political broadcast on behalf of the ant-brexit; anti-democracy; & sour grapes parties.

[AlcoholBrazil]

with bitter lemons and a stamping of feet thrown in for good measure.

[delboy1983]

What time is your flight out of here Hillman to somewhere you are appreciated.

[Zambo]

Think carefully...

If you vote Tory, you will NOT be "Getting Brexit Done".
That is for 2020 and there must be an 80% chance of it resulting in a no deal exit.
Which will disable our economy for generations.

One of the MANY issues not discussed ( or on my town's case, discussed by our MP who demonstrated his failure to understand) is that :

WE NEED an EU deal. It represents half our current trade. No deal would cause massive damage to certain industries, agriculture and fisheries amongst them.

But the EU will not let us trade as we are now once we are not members. They WILL , though , expect any of our exports to comply with regulation ( though that will be regulation we will have no say in, and which most critically will expose services exports). Tariffs are far less of an issue. Paperwork, once outside the customs union, will absorb much resource and be enough to prevent some small firms from even trying to.

So even if we got a deal, we could never get anywhere like the level of business we have now.

SO we would need another substantial trade deal. Forget ANZAC- peanuts and already sewn up by China. Forget China; Germany is already their top partner ( EU member or not).

NO it is the US. But the regulation- or lack of it- that the US would expect would directly conflict with that which the EU expects. GM foods would be one small example.

THEY ARE INCOMPATIBLE.

So there is NO WAY we can do both. There is NO WAY we can even do either in one year, unless we roll over and accept all their demands. Whatever route unfolds, economic disaster awaits.

The above was a party political broadcast on behalf of the ant-brexit; anti-democracy; & sour grapes parties.

[m4rkb]

Think carefully...

If you vote Tory, you will NOT be "Getting Brexit Done".
That is for 2020 and there must be an 80% chance of it resulting in a no deal exit.
Which will disable our economy for generations.

One of the MANY issues not discussed ( or on my town's case, discussed by our MP who demonstrated his failure to understand) is that :

WE NEED an EU deal. It represents half our current trade. No deal would cause massive damage to certain industries, agriculture and fisheries amongst them.

But the EU will not let us trade as we are now once we are not members. They WILL , though , expect any of our exports to comply with regulation ( though that will be regulation we will have no say in, and which most critically will expose services exports). Tariffs are far less of an issue. Paperwork, once outside the customs union, will absorb much resource and be enough to prevent some small firms from even trying to.

So even if we got a deal, we could never get anywhere like the level of business we have now.

SO we would need another substantial trade deal. Forget ANZAC- peanuts and already sewn up by China. Forget China; Germany is already their top partner ( EU member or not).

NO it is the US. But the regulation- or lack of it- that the US would expect would directly conflict with that which the EU expects. GM foods would be one small example.

THEY ARE INCOMPATIBLE.

So there is NO WAY we can do both. There is NO WAY we can even do either in one year, unless we roll over and accept all their demands. Whatever route unfolds, economic disaster awaits.

Another post where someone 'fails to understand'.
If you know so much why don't you get into politics and stand for election yourself.
I hear there are plenty of vacancies in the Monster Raving Loony Party

[m4rkb]

..and then tells us he's voting Labour after banging on about damage to the economy over Brexit

[Vespa]

I vote Green, even if they can't win - because I'd rather vote for something than waste it on a shitty compromise.