Be clear what you are voting for tomorrow

[Roy Twing]

I vote Green, even if they can't win - because I'd rather vote for something than waste it on a shitty compromise.

Replace 'green ' with 'brexit' and I agree entirely

[Zippy]

Beats voting for a fringe, anti-semitic crank, to be fair.

You mean Boris Johnson?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 39346.html

Like attracts like. You must be spoilt for choice with these two candidates then!

[AlcoholBrazil]

What time is your flight out of here Hillman to somewhere you are appreciated.

Brace yourself for Sterling to plummet if a Corbyn Government is on the cards.

[m4rkb]

Labour is now the childrens' party. They're the only ones daft enough and gullible enough to vote for it who aren't old enough to know better.

.. and hardline commies wearing utilitarian hats.

[delboy1983]

What time is your flight out of here Hillman to somewhere you are appreciated.

Brace yourself for Sterling to plummet if a Corbyn Government is on the cards.

Another dive for Sterling !!

[Zambo]

What time is your flight out of here Hillman to somewhere you are appreciated.

Brace yourself for Sterling to plummet if a Corbyn Government is on the cards.

Another dive for Sterling !!

[subsub]

Think carefully...

If you vote Tory, you will NOT be "Getting Brexit Done".
That is for 2020 and there must be an 80% chance of it resulting in a no deal exit.
Which will disable our economy for generations.

One of the MANY issues not discussed ( or on my town's case, discussed by our MP who demonstrated his failure to understand) is that :

WE NEED an EU deal. It represents half our current trade. No deal would cause massive damage to certain industries, agriculture and fisheries amongst them.

But the EU will not let us trade as we are now once we are not members. They WILL , though , expect any of our exports to comply with regulation ( though that will be regulation we will have no say in, and which most critically will expose services exports). Tariffs are far less of an issue. Paperwork, once outside the customs union, will absorb much resource and be enough to prevent some small firms from even trying to.

So even if we got a deal, we could never get anywhere like the level of business we have now.

SO we would need another substantial trade deal. Forget ANZAC- peanuts and already sewn up by China. Forget China; Germany is already their top partner ( EU member or not).

NO it is the US. But the regulation- or lack of it- that the US would expect would directly conflict with that which the EU expects. GM foods would be one small example.

THEY ARE INCOMPATIBLE.

So there is NO WAY we can do both. There is NO WAY we can even do either in one year, unless we roll over and accept all their demands. Whatever route unfolds, economic disaster awaits.

Another post where someone 'fails to understand'.
If you know so much why don't you get into politics and stand for election yourself.
I hear there are plenty of vacancies in the Monster Raving Loony Party

I note that neither you nor Roy have actually addressed any of the points Hillman made.
I wonder why…

[m4rkb]

..because his anti Brexit posts are just scaremongering bollocks put out by doom mongers on the EU payroll?

The only remote truth to them is people deliberately setting out to cause any form of Brexit whether the proper version or May+ to fail , which is the only genuine worry and a real one at that.

[Roy Twing]

Labour is now the childrens' party. They're the only ones daft enough and gullible enough to vote for it who aren't old enough to know better.

.. and hardline commies wearing utilitarian hats.

That comment reminded me of this that I saw the other day:

[Roy Twing]

Think carefully...

If you vote Tory, you will NOT be "Getting Brexit Done".
That is for 2020 and there must be an 80% chance of it resulting in a no deal exit.
Which will disable our economy for generations.

One of the MANY issues not discussed ( or on my town's case, discussed by our MP who demonstrated his failure to understand) is that :

WE NEED an EU deal. It represents half our current trade. No deal would cause massive damage to certain industries, agriculture and fisheries amongst them.

But the EU will not let us trade as we are now once we are not members. They WILL , though , expect any of our exports to comply with regulation ( though that will be regulation we will have no say in, and which most critically will expose services exports). Tariffs are far less of an issue. Paperwork, once outside the customs union, will absorb much resource and be enough to prevent some small firms from even trying to.

So even if we got a deal, we could never get anywhere like the level of business we have now.

SO we would need another substantial trade deal. Forget ANZAC- peanuts and already sewn up by China. Forget China; Germany is already their top partner ( EU member or not).

NO it is the US. But the regulation- or lack of it- that the US would expect would directly conflict with that which the EU expects. GM foods would be one small example.

THEY ARE INCOMPATIBLE.

So there is NO WAY we can do both. There is NO WAY we can even do either in one year, unless we roll over and accept all their demands. Whatever route unfolds, economic disaster awaits.

Another post where someone 'fails to understand'.
If you know so much why don't you get into politics and stand for election yourself.
I hear there are plenty of vacancies in the Monster Raving Loony Party

I note that neither you nor Roy have actually addressed any of the points Hillman made.
I wonder why…

...Because it's hillman's usual nonsense (and also because, as he rarely responds to other posters' posts, I rarely bother any more).

However, since you asked, - I happen to agree that voting in the tories will not get brexit done, but it would still be light years closer than the alternative.
'No deal' is now the only remaining positive outcome, and is is far from "80%" likely.
The only reason that the EU will not give a tariff-free trade deal is a) out of pique; b) to dissuade other countries from leaving, c) they know that the UK establishment is doing its damndest to remain within the EU.
...can't be bothered reading the rest of his nonsense, but hope that helps.

[ToRmAtO]

Could I vote for Boris - NO
Could I vote for that gleckit Liberal woman. - NO
Could I vote for that gleckit SNP woman - NO

I will be voting Labour.

[Hillman avenger]

Think carefully...

If you vote Tory, you will NOT be "Getting Brexit Done".
That is for 2020 and there must be an 80% chance of it resulting in a no deal exit.
Which will disable our economy for generations.

One of the MANY issues not discussed ( or on my town's case, discussed by our MP who demonstrated his failure to understand) is that :

WE NEED an EU deal. It represents half our current trade. No deal would cause massive damage to certain industries, agriculture and fisheries amongst them.

But the EU will not let us trade as we are now once we are not members. They WILL , though , expect any of our exports to comply with regulation ( though that will be regulation we will have no say in, and which most critically will expose services exports). Tariffs are far less of an issue. Paperwork, once outside the customs union, will absorb much resource and be enough to prevent some small firms from even trying to.

So even if we got a deal, we could never get anywhere like the level of business we have now.

SO we would need another substantial trade deal. Forget ANZAC- peanuts and already sewn up by China. Forget China; Germany is already their top partner ( EU member or not).

NO it is the US. But the regulation- or lack of it- that the US would expect would directly conflict with that which the EU expects. GM foods would be one small example.

THEY ARE INCOMPATIBLE.

So there is NO WAY we can do both. There is NO WAY we can even do either in one year, unless we roll over and accept all their demands. Whatever route unfolds, economic disaster awaits.

The above was a party political broadcast on behalf of the ant-brexit; anti-democracy; & sour grapes parties.

It is a pragmatic statement about the mess that will confront us.
Tell me anything in what I said which is wrong.

[Hillman avenger]

What time is your flight out of here Hillman to somewhere you are appreciated.

Brace yourself for Sterling to plummet if a Corbyn Government is on the cards.

Have you watched sterling's decline over the last 3 years?
It's Brexit that has caused that, and it will accelerate as the odds on a no-deal shorten.
We have painted ourselves into a corner and Johnson's solution is to keep painting.

[delboy1983]

It's a negative prediction Hillman to be filed away with other thousands you have contributed to this subject.

[rorymac]

I'm sure you all know how right I am about stuff always so I must point out that I'm voting Labour !!precisely!! because Jeremy Corbyn is the leader. I expect one or two of you lot still won't change your minds but that's ok tbf.
There will be no wealth creator drain either guys so don't be fearful ok !
Now go out and vote and that's the end of it !