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Hillman avenger wrote:So as it's only £500k that's OK is it?
And the rest?
And the Russian money?
The naivety is remarkable.
Hillman avenger wrote:As usual no-one with the intellect or the balls to answer the points I made.
Hillman avenger wrote:Vespa wrote:Hillman avenger wrote:As usual no-one with the intellect or the balls to answer the points I made.
Just the usual collection of abuse and what-aboutery.
I am quite prepared, indeed would like, to hear some arguments that I am wrong. Because the scenario I describe scares the shit out of me.
In the mean time, reflect on who you are rewarding today.
In November Johnathan Wood who runs a Cayman-registered hedge fund ( which profits from our economic collapse) gave the Tories £500m.
Yan Huo gave them £200m.Another Caymans outfit. Still he can afford it, what with him paying himself £100m a year.
David Harding of the Winton Group £200k
Michael Farmer of "Red Kite" £100k.
Roger Carlsson of "futures trading " group FCT.
All of them deep in the kind of speculation which produced 2008, but which they and Johnson have managed to pin on the Labour party. Despite government borrowing NOW being higher than then.
And a handy donation from KPMG, the auditors who brought you Carillion.
On 28 November the Tories proclaimed how Labour had a "war chest" of £3.4m . Later that day it slipped out that the Tories fund was £8.6m. See above.
All this presided over by Ehud Sheleg . Guess where he is from?
In 2011 the Tories relaxed the rules on Russians getting citizenship here. Which means that Russians giving them donations are UK citizens. So that's OK then.
Hi,
Could you substantiate the Wood 500m donation, please?
Below is data from the Electoral Commission show total donations over the last ten years, a total of ~£482m.
The break down of those numbers are:
Tory: £268m
Labour: £231m
LibDems: £67
In the last two years the Tories, Labour and LibDems have pulled in - £35m, £13m and $7m.
The Wood donation would have been more than total donations for all parties over the last decade.
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It's my typo. It's a mere £500k so clearly not likely to influence democracy eh?
Roy Twing wrote:unlike you & hillman, I always try to reply to direct questions directly.
subsub wrote:Roy Twing wrote:unlike you & hillman, I always try to reply to direct questions directly.
Just the two unsubstantiated mentions of "strawman".
Sounds like an ad hominem attack to me – you're normally very quick to pull others up on that…
m4rkb wrote:subsub wrote:Roy Twing wrote:unlike you & hillman, I always try to reply to direct questions directly.
Just the two unsubstantiated mentions of "strawman".
Sounds like an ad hominem attack to me – you're normally very quick to pull others up on that…
You voted yet Sub?
And if so, do you mind me asking which waste of space got your vote?
Vespa wrote:Hillman avenger wrote:So as it's only £500k that's OK is it?
And the rest?
And the Russian money?
The naivety is remarkable.
What cap would you put on political donations?
subsub wrote:m4rkb wrote:subsub wrote:Roy Twing wrote:unlike you & hillman, I always try to reply to direct questions directly.
Just the two unsubstantiated mentions of "strawman".
Sounds like an ad hominem attack to me – you're normally very quick to pull others up on that…
You voted yet Sub?
And if so, do you mind me asking which waste of space got your vote?
Not at all, m4rk.
I voted for David Gauke, who is standing as an Independent candidate in SW Herts, after being expelled from the Tory party (he won in 2017 with a 20,000 majority).
He has a slim chance of winning, but if he does, it's one less Tory in power, and it makes Brexit less likely to happen – two things I'm in favour of
But you could argue that I'm actually voting for a Tory – bet that surprised you
Hillman avenger wrote:Vespa wrote:Hillman avenger wrote:So as it's only £500k that's OK is it?
And the rest?
And the Russian money?
The naivety is remarkable.
What cap would you put on political donations?
Whatever you do people find a way around it.
As the NRA did for Trump.
For example there is a fresh one about money going to the Leave organisation via a third party.
It's WHO is funding them that's the issue.
In this case the people who actually profit from falling UK stocks, who are the target of EU tax evasion measures. Do you think they donate out of their desire to see a certain type of UK in the future?
Why do you think Russians donate? London is known to be one of the best places to launder money and they wouldn't want that disturbed.
The Tory party is being used to deliver optimum conditions for these people and the millions who will obediently elect them are induced to do so with shallow promises and fear mongering about the alternatives.
These people will pick off what they need from us and move on.
subsub wrote:Roy Twing wrote:unlike you & hillman, I always try to reply to direct questions directly.
Just the two unsubstantiated mentions of "strawman".
Sounds like an ad hominem attack to me – you're normally very quick to pull others up on that…
m4rkb wrote:subsub wrote:m4rkb wrote:subsub wrote:Roy Twing wrote:unlike you & hillman, I always try to reply to direct questions directly.
Just the two unsubstantiated mentions of "strawman".
Sounds like an ad hominem attack to me – you're normally very quick to pull others up on that…
You voted yet Sub?
And if so, do you mind me asking which waste of space got your vote?
Not at all, m4rk.
I voted for David Gauke, who is standing as an Independent candidate in SW Herts, after being expelled from the Tory party (he won in 2017 with a 20,000 majority).
He has a slim chance of winning, but if he does, it's one less Tory in power, and it makes Brexit less likely to happen – two things I'm in favour of
But you could argue that I'm actually voting for a Tory – bet that surprised you
It dain't half.
Shocked and stunned.
Glad to hear he's got no fucking chance of winning though so a vote well cast IMO given his credentials.
Voted Brexit Party myself even though I know the Labour bloke who's OK. If I bump into him I'll tell him I voted Labour just to keep him sweet.
m4rkb wrote:Yep. You're probably right there.
Glad to hear you didn't vote for a raving anti-Semitic IRA supporting nut job and someone who can't put on a pair of shoes properly, unlike some more informed posters on here.
