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Re: Overrated football managers
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 12:18 pm
by Carlos J
I've always liked MON.
shabbado wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 10:39 am
JW90 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 10:33 am
I love the bloke, did an amazing job at my club with limited resources compared to other teams around us. Probably not top level but certainly an excellent Premier League and League Cup manager (four finals, two victories). Got Celtic to a European final too.
He was a very competent manager who's style served him and his teams well for a period.
Modern day equivalent would be Brendan Rodgers.
The Rodgers thread from the LFC documentary was funny, from memory. Great teeth and his envelopes of players.
Somewhere in the archive, sure Dear Leader mark wasn't impressed:
http://archive1.talkforum.co.uk/index.php
Re: Overrated football managers
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 12:34 pm
by JW90
shabbado wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 10:39 am
JW90 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 10:33 am
I love the bloke, did an amazing job at my club with limited resources compared to other teams around us. Probably not top level but certainly an excellent Premier League and League Cup manager (four finals, two victories). Got Celtic to a European final too.
He was a very competent manager who's style served him and his teams well for a period.
Modern day equivalent would be Brendan Rodgers.
Both from Northern Ireland. Both won trophies at provincial clubs. Both seem quite touchy about criticism from fans.
Yeah, I can see that
Re: Overrated football managers
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 2:14 pm
by finchman
Paul Cook......Leam Richardson carried him for years and he's now being found out.
Re: Overrated football managers
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:30 pm
by theleader82
Arsenr wenger . He inherited a good defence and added a sprinkling of French flair. He overstayed his time and sullied his reputation in the process
Re: Overrated football managers
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:42 pm
by kancutlawns
theleader82 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:30 pm
Arsenr wenger . He inherited a good defence and added a sprinkling of French flair. He overstayed his time and sullied his reputation in the process
Hello Haidrian.
Re: Overrated football managers
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 8:53 pm
by henrycrs
Darren ‘she fell on my knee’ Ferguson.
Gareth the fucking fake, shit cunt, snide, woke, negative and factually inept bastard, Southgate.
Re: Overrated football managers
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:43 pm
by Sadact7
For the time being, I have to put Der Rangernator/Ranger Banger in this category.
Won one trophy in his career yet the way it’s being reported this Kunt is the guru of all football.
We shall see…
Re: Overrated football managers
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 6:52 am
by JudgeTedd
kancutlawns wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:42 pm
theleader82 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:30 pm
Arsenr wenger . He inherited a good defence and added a sprinkling of French flair. He overstayed his time and sullied his reputation in the process
Hello Haidrian.
Smh.
It’s a cliche a minute with old Leado.
Re: Overrated football managers
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 1:10 pm
by JimmyDee
"Relegation" Redknapp. Do I win?
Re: Overrated football managers
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 3:23 pm
by Salem
JimmyDee wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 1:10 pm
"Relegation" Redknapp. Do I win?
Almost Jimmy , but i think Henners wins hands down with Southgate.
He maybe a decent man-manager but his tactical awareness is less than zero .
Given a home championships at the Euros and fucked it up . Made it to the semis in Russia via the easiest route we could have hoped for and fucked it up .
He was a good player to be fair but I bet he can't believe his luck at getting a new contract.
Re: Overrated football managers
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 4:15 pm
by Zambo
Salem wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 3:23 pm
I bet he can't believe his luck at getting a new contract.
The problem is, he thinks he deserved it, so he'll just carry on turning the same boring shite.
Re: Overrated football managers
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 6:02 pm
by theleader82
Guardiolas never had to manage an average group of players. You have to respect what people like warnock and allardyce do on limited budgets
Re: Overrated football managers
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:10 pm
by kancutlawns
theleader82 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 6:02 pm
Guardiolas never had to manage an average group of players. You have to respect what people like warnock and allardyce do on limited budgets
No you don’t. Big Sam is a horrible twat. His attitude in the press conference when he lost his job at the Boggoies showed him for the odious, self entitled, bitter arsehole he is. Colin Wanker is cut from the same cum-stained cloth.
Re: Overrated football managers
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:45 pm
by Sadact7
kancutlawns wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:10 pm
theleader82 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 6:02 pm
Guardiolas never had to manage an average group of players. You have to respect what people like warnock and allardyce do on limited budgets
No you don’t. Big Sam is a horrible twat. His attitude in the press conference when he lost his job at the Boggoies showed him for the odious, self entitled, bitter arsehole he is. Colin Wanker is cut from the same cum-stained cloth.
In terms of what they do, then I do respect them. Warnock has a good track record of promotion and Allardyce generally has kept teams in the top flight, both of which are probably what clubs which employ them will want them to do.
My gripe with them, particularly Allardyce, is that they seem to believe they should be destined for bigger things. You hear Allardyce talking and he genuinely believes he should be in the mix up for any of the really big jobs which become available. As you say, he’s self-entitled.
Managers find their level, Moyes being a good example. Man Utd nearly broke him and it’s taken six or seven years for him to regain respect for the job he does, because clubs with the expectations of Everton or West Ham are the level where he can operate. It’s not a criticism, it’s just the way it is.
Re: Overrated football managers
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 9:24 pm
by subsub
Sadact7 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:45 pm
kancutlawns wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:10 pm
theleader82 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 6:02 pm
Guardiolas never had to manage an average group of players. You have to respect what people like warnock and allardyce do on limited budgets
No you don’t. Big Sam is a horrible twat. His attitude in the press conference when he lost his job at the Boggoies showed him for the odious, self entitled, bitter arsehole he is. Colin Wanker is cut from the same cum-stained cloth.
In terms of what they do, then I do respect them. Warnock has a good track record of promotion and Allardyce generally has kept teams in the top flight, both of which are probably what clubs which employ them will want them to do.
My gripe with them, particularly Allardyce, is that they seem to believe they should be destined for bigger things. You hear Allardyce talking and he genuinely believes he should be in the mix up for any of the really big jobs which become available. As you say, he’s self-entitled.
Managers find their level, Moyes being a good example. Man Utd nearly broke him and it’s taken six or seven years for him to regain respect for the job he does, because clubs with the expectations of Everton or West Ham are the level where he can operate. It’s not a criticism, it’s just the way it is.
Indeed. Allardyce comes across as such an arrogant twat, claiming to be an innovator, and how if he'd been foreign and not looked like he does, would have been managing Real Madrid by now etc
