Post Brexit - part 21

[Vespa]

Good Friday Agreement, 1998, BUT LABOUR

I'm eternally greatful to Labour for signing the UK up to the GFA, and by doing so making it near impossible for the UK to abandon th ECHR.

It was only signed after the voters of Ireland voted for it.

It was signed on good friday 1998. The referendum came after that. If it wasn't signed first, there'd be nothing to vote for.

If it wasn't voted on it wouldn't be law.

Was signed for prior to being put to the vote.

Sorry you don't understand how the treaty was arranged. Let me help you.
1. Politicians agree terms
2. Terms are put to a public vote
3. Passes public vote
4. Treaty agreed and becomes law

You're trying too hard.

The signing of the good friday agreement came at stage 1. So your argument is void.

If they hadn't won the vote it wouldn't be a treaty, which bizarrely you're arguing against.

[The Tick]

Good Friday Agreement, 1998, BUT LABOUR

I'm eternally greatful to Labour for signing the UK up to the GFA, and by doing so making it near impossible for the UK to abandon th ECHR.

It was only signed after the voters of Ireland voted for it.

It was signed on good friday 1998. The referendum came after that. If it wasn't signed first, there'd be nothing to vote for.

If it wasn't voted on it wouldn't be law.

Was signed for prior to being put to the vote.

Sorry you don't understand how the treaty was arranged. Let me help you.
1. Politicians agree terms
2. Terms are put to a public vote
3. Passes public vote
4. Treaty agreed and becomes law

You're trying too hard.

The signing of the good friday agreement came at stage 1. So your argument is void.

If they hadn't won the vote it wouldn't be a treaty, which bizarrely you're arguing against.

The treaty was still signed for prior to being put to the vote and ratified. The signatures came first. No matter what weird spin you put on it.

[The Tick]

More winning...


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-68688486


New post-Brexit tariff to apply to UK cars going to Canada

[Holden Mcgroyne]

Again ? That's twice in 3 days, the bastards

We stood our ground on not importing hormone injected beef, which project fear said would be flooding our markets post brexit. UK farmers are pleased about the government standing up for them and there's still leftie piss boiled

3 for 3.

[The Tick]

Again ? That's twice in 3 days, the bastards

We stood our ground on not importing hormone injected beef, which project fear said would be flooding our markets post brexit. UK farmers are pleased about the government standing up for them and there's still leftie piss boiled

3 for 3.

You want to explain that to the farmers who were protesting in Westminster? Or would you prefer to send someone else with the message instead?

[subsub]

UK farmers are pleased about the government standing up for them

Really?
https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/britis ... 024-03-25/

A convoy of tractors protested outside Britain's parliament on Monday against post-Brexit trade deals and what they called substandard food imports in the latest demonstrations by farmers globally.

At least 50 tractors, many with Union Jack flags and signs such as "no farmers, no food, no future", took part in the protest outside the Houses of Parliament.
The farmers are demanding that the government enforce more accurate food labelling and take steps to improve the country's food security.

They also want the government to end trade deals that they say are allowing imports of food produced to standards that would be illegal in Britain and undercut local farmers.

"Time and time again they have let us down," Liz Webster, founder of Save British Farming, told the BBC. "They promised to uphold our high standards and promised not to allow Britain to be a dumping ground ... what they are doing is making us a dumping ground."

The rally follows protests by farmers across Europe who are angered by competition from cheaper imports and want stricter environmental regulations

[antdad]

What's even funnier (not) is the EU's free trade deal with NZ comes into force in May that doesn't include hormoned beef and all the requisite farmer and environmental protections.

[Holden Mcgroyne]

UK farmers are pleased about the government standing up for them

Really?
https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/britis ... 024-03-25/

A convoy of tractors protested outside Britain's parliament on Monday against post-Brexit trade deals and what they called substandard food imports in the latest demonstrations by farmers globally.

At least 50 tractors, many with Union Jack flags and signs such as "no farmers, no food, no future", took part in the protest outside the Houses of Parliament.
The farmers are demanding that the government enforce more accurate food labelling and take steps to improve the country's food security.

They also want the government to end trade deals that they say are allowing imports of food produced to standards that would be illegal in Britain and undercut local farmers.

"Time and time again they have let us down," Liz Webster, founder of Save British Farming, told the BBC. "They promised to uphold our high standards and promised not to allow Britain to be a dumping ground ... what they are doing is making us a dumping ground."

The rally follows protests by farmers across Europe who are angered by competition from cheaper imports and want stricter environmental regulations

If you want to make a point, you're going to need to do better than quote Loony Liz Webster

[Holden Mcgroyne]

What's even funnier (not) is the EU's free trade deal with NZ comes into force in May that doesn't include hormoned beef and all the requisite farmer and environmental protections.

Neither did the FTA the UK agreed with New Zealand that came into effect last year.

[The Tick]

Rather odd that UK farmers are protesting outside Westminster at the fact that substandard food produce is being imported into the UK from abroad, undercutting their own produce. A consequence of brexit.

[subsub]

UK farmers are pleased about the government standing up for them

Really?
https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/britis ... 024-03-25/

A convoy of tractors protested outside Britain's parliament on Monday against post-Brexit trade deals and what they called substandard food imports in the latest demonstrations by farmers globally.

At least 50 tractors, many with Union Jack flags and signs such as "no farmers, no food, no future", took part in the protest outside the Houses of Parliament.
The farmers are demanding that the government enforce more accurate food labelling and take steps to improve the country's food security.

They also want the government to end trade deals that they say are allowing imports of food produced to standards that would be illegal in Britain and undercut local farmers.

"Time and time again they have let us down," Liz Webster, founder of Save British Farming, told the BBC. "They promised to uphold our high standards and promised not to allow Britain to be a dumping ground ... what they are doing is making us a dumping ground."

The rally follows protests by farmers across Europe who are angered by competition from cheaper imports and want stricter environmental regulations

If you want to make a point, you're going to need to do better than quote Loony Liz Webster

You said that UK farmers were happy with the government in the very same week a load of them turn up to protest about post-Brexit trade deals

[antdad]

I was mistaken about the UK trade deal with NZ while thinking about the stalled Canadian one.

Still, Webster is a farmer first and foremost and the Tories have done a fine job assasinating her character because she's a fairly effective campaigner, unlike her peers she didn't roll over and swallow the Brexit benefit load.

Just a reminder...

[Vespa]

The Tories attack Liz Webster because they are unable to debate her actual points about how the Tories have undermined agriculture and are now painting farmers as moaners whilst during Brexit they claimed to be saving them. It's pretty easy to understand:

1. You can't get the government to explain the farmers support schemes that have replaced the EU ones. Because it's garbage.
2. They've signed trade deals that have essentially sold out British farmers by eliminating basic tariff structures for goods that are illegal to produce in the UK
3. They've adddd cost and complexity to trade with the EU

You can get more facts here https://savebritishfood.org

[The Tick]

More winning...


https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politic ... 48847.html



Brexit: Food prices will be pushed up with new border checks in weeks on EU imports, warns retail chief

[The Tick]

More winning...

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... -struggles



British farmers want basic income to cope with post-Brexit struggles
Schemes to replace EU subsidies will not plug gap left by loss of EU subsidies for most farmers