The Premier League - Season 2023/24

[JudgeTedd]

I’m not sure stats work out particularly well. You could make a case for Jens Lehmann being one of the best ever premier league goalkeepers just by the fact he didn’t lose a game in a whole season.

[Zambo]

Yep, other players influenced that record.

[The Ghost of Alex Higgins]

I’m not sure stats work out particularly well. You could make a case for Jens Lehmann being one of the best ever premier league goalkeepers just by the fact he didn’t lose a game in a whole season.

Shillbag can make any information work exactly however the hell he wants it to

[JudgeTedd]

Not enough yellow and red cards in this game.

[JudgeTedd]

What’s with all the smiles and backslapping? Those players should be dishing out right-handers to each other. Pull your fingers out, this is English football.

[Zambo]

It's still rumbling on, should Liverpool have had a late pen when Doku challenged MacAllister.

Ref, ex refs, VAR, pundits etc all have it wrong.

Some say yes because Doku's foot was high and he caught MacAllister in the chest. Some say no because Doku played the ball first. Both bollocks.

If you raise your foot that high, whether you play the ball or not, and an opponent is in playing distance, then you are endangering the safety of that opponent. Dangerous play without intent or force is punishable with an indirect free kick. It matters not whether it takes place in the box or on the half way line.

Those people who are supposed to be qualified and are pontificating need a brush up on the laws of the game.....

Playing in a dangerous manner is any action that, while trying to play the ball, threatens injury to someone (including the player themself) and includes preventing a nearby opponent from playing the ball for fear of injury.

Yellow card challenges are seen as fouls with no aggression

[Sunbeam Alpine]

Earlier this season MacAllister was red-carded for a foot-up which was below the knee of his opponent.
I don't recall who the referee was then, but the card was cancelled on appeal.
So there's another referee who according to you doesn't know the rules.

And Clattenburg has now weighed in with the view that it was a penalty.

So in three games this season against leading sides Liverpool have been on the wrong end of referee decisions.
They should have taken the lead at Tottenham through Diaz. They should have had a penalty against Arsenal at Anfield.

Yes the restart at Forest was a mistake but play went on for another two minutes before the goal. But even if you allow that they are possibly ( Spurs. Arsenal) 2-4 points under what would be right.

[The Ghost of Alex Higgins]

Will there ever be justice4jurgen

[Zambo]

Earlier this season MacAllister was red-carded for a foot-up which was below the knee of his opponent.
I don't recall who the referee was then, but the card was cancelled on appeal.
So there's another referee who according to you doesn't know the rules.

And Clattenburg has now weighed in with the view that it was a penalty.

So in three games this season against leading sides Liverpool have been on the wrong end of referee decisions.
They should have taken the lead at Tottenham through Diaz. They should have had a penalty against Arsenal at Anfield.

Yes the restart at Forest was a mistake but play went on for another two minutes before the goal. But even if you allow that they are possibly ( Spurs. Arsenal) 2-4 points under what would be right.

Someone who doesn't know that there are no rules in football doesn't really deserve an answer.

Moreover, any match official who doesn't know the difference between serious foul play, dangerous play, intent, and what constitutes an infringement, an indirect and direct free kick and a yellow or red card shouldn't be on the park.

Some of the ignorance displayed by those assessing the incident in question, given their status and standing is astounding.

If you believe that Liverpool should have been awarded a penalty, please explain why, using the laws of the game.

[chelseachelsea]

Laws not rules.

[Sunbeam Alpine]

Earlier this season MacAllister was red-carded for a foot-up which was below the knee of his opponent.
I don't recall who the referee was then, but the card was cancelled on appeal.
So there's another referee who according to you doesn't know the rules.

And Clattenburg has now weighed in with the view that it was a penalty.

So in three games this season against leading sides Liverpool have been on the wrong end of referee decisions.
They should have taken the lead at Tottenham through Diaz. They should have had a penalty against Arsenal at Anfield.

Yes the restart at Forest was a mistake but play went on for another two minutes before the goal. But even if you allow that they are possibly ( Spurs. Arsenal) 2-4 points under what would be right.

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Someone who doesn't know that there are no rules in football doesn't really deserve an answer.

Moreover, any match official who doesn't know the difference between serious foul play, dangerous play, intent, and what constitutes an infringement, an indirect and direct free kick and a yellow or red card shouldn't be on the park.

Some of the ignorance displayed by those assessing the incident in question, given their status and standing is astounding.

If you believe that Liverpool should have been awarded a penalty, please explain why, using the laws of the game.

Phew
I got an answer so that's not me then.
Who are you upset with? The professional referees you don't agree with, me, the world?
I quoted PGMOL saying the Arsenal decision was wrong and Clattenburg- among others- saying this one was.
I , a mere fan, find the idea that a kick at shoulder height is not dangerous play a bit strange. So are you saying he should have awarded an indirect free kick in the penalty area? Is there such a thing?

[Zambo]

My post at 16:07 spelled it out in detail.

According to the laws imo, the challenge should have been categorised as dangerous play, and Oliver should have awarded an indirect free kick to Liverpool inside the penalty area. Players can't raise their foot that high with an opponent that close without being penalised.

Oliver was wrong not to penalise the high foot but would have been wrong to award a penalty. I'm genuinely amazed that no one so far has spotted that.

[Sunbeam Alpine]

OK
Here's a question for you
If a free kick is awarded in the area, and it is within 10 yards of the goal, where does the referee establish the line for the defenders?

[chelseachelsea]

On the goal line, I'm sure I 've seen this situation in the past.

[The Ghost of Alex Higgins]

Oh god is he still going on about it