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Europe, the home of civilization and compassion... well, under certain conditions.


Priti Patel might be a wanker but at least she's consistent with it.

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I generally don't think governments are lying, just either inept or disingenuous. Johnson seems to have built a goverment that is disingenuous, lies and inept all at the same time for single issues.

For the last few days, we've been told stories of people being stuck in Calais because the UK goverment hasn't built any resources there were awful media lies and Priti Patel herself said only the morning that there is a so-called VAC (Visa Application Centre) in Calais processing people and this was all nonsense. Then Number 10 said there wasn't a VAC and now Priti Patel agrees there isn't one there either - they've had weeks now to ship people in France maybe they should have got Farage to ferry them over in his dingy.

Now we have pictures of signs put up by British officials in Calais telling Ukrainians to go to either Paris or Brussels.

It's shameful and they need to fix it.


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It is not just that they lie, but that they are so CRAP at it.

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Sunbeam Alpine wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 5:15 pm It is not just that they lie, but that they are so CRAP at it.
This is true. What irritates me is if the Goverment admitted it was a bit shit but they had a plan to get it fixed next week it wouldn't be a story. The fact they lie about it to cover up being a bit shit that annoys me.

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Vespa wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 5:18 pm
Sunbeam Alpine wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 5:15 pm It is not just that they lie, but that they are so CRAP at it.
This is true. What irritates me is if the Goverment admitted it was a bit shit but they had a plan to get it fixed next week it wouldn't be a story. The fact they lie about it to cover up being a bit shit that annoys me.
The thing is though, very few in the media will hold them to account for such a shambles.
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JudgeTedd wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 5:56 pm
Vespa wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 5:18 pm
Sunbeam Alpine wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 5:15 pm It is not just that they lie, but that they are so CRAP at it.
This is true. What irritates me is if the Goverment admitted it was a bit shit but they had a plan to get it fixed next week it wouldn't be a story. The fact they lie about it to cover up being a bit shit that annoys me.
The thing is though, very few in the media will hold them to account for such a shambles.
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paolo wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 8:01 pm
JudgeTedd wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 5:56 pm
Vespa wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 5:18 pm
Sunbeam Alpine wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 5:15 pm It is not just that they lie, but that they are so CRAP at it.
This is true. What irritates me is if the Goverment admitted it was a bit shit but they had a plan to get it fixed next week it wouldn't be a story. The fact they lie about it to cover up being a bit shit that annoys me.
The thing is though, very few in the media will hold them to account for such a shambles.
the media is no longer a jounalistic entity

it's a bought and paid for PR machine
Journalism is dead. Why go searching for a story when you can see what’s trending on social media and write two hundred words about it? Or write whatever the owner wants the readership to get angry about.
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Sorry to be polemical, but

IT'S ALL ABOUT MEEEE!!!

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We stand shoulder to shoulder with Ukraine...honest. :roll:


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Europe today turned its back on a desperate plea from Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky to boycott Russian gas and oil as the most effective means of bringing Vladimir Putin’s assault to a halt.

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lambrini wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 10:14 pm Sorry to be polemical, but

IT'S ALL ABOUT MEEEE!!!

It's sad but those are the regs and tills are adjusted not to accept more, same with paracetamol, only two allowed, I'm sure there are other medications with the same restrictions but as I don't use them I don't really know.
As far as I can see the only way around is to get the chemists involved, they can purchase the stuff and then make arrangement to have it sent to the correct distribution centre.
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birdie wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 10:40 pm
lambrini wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 10:14 pm Sorry to be polemical, but

IT'S ALL ABOUT MEEEE!!!

It's sad but those are the regs and tills are adjusted not to accept more, same with paracetamol, only two allowed, I'm sure there are other medications with the same restrictions but as I don't use them I don't really know.
As far as I can see the only way around is to get the chemists involved, they can purchase the stuff and then make arrangement to have it sent to the correct distribution centre.
The regulations reduced accidental overdoses by 40%, well worth a minor inconvenience. Where was he going to send this medicine?

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I bet she's part Finnish.


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Vespa wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 11:52 pm I bet she's part Finnish.

Reminds of that sportswoman interviewed by Goffie:
Gough: "Where'ya from?"
Woman: "Oh, I'm from Finland."
G: "Finland! Do you speak Finnish?"
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subsub wrote: Tue Mar 08, 2022 7:49 am
Vespa wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 11:52 pm I bet she's part Finnish.

Reminds of that sportswoman interviewed by Goffie:
Gough: "Where'ya from?"
Woman: "Oh, I'm from Finland."
G: "Finland! Do you speak Finnish?"
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