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Ralph wrote:

shabbado wrote:

JudgeTedd wrote:

Ralph wrote:5 pages of whataboutery and stubborn refusal to outright condemn violence against people with differing political views.

If they back down on one argument, they think all their other arguments will collapse like an England top order batsman

Australian, surely.

Collapse like a Australian middle order batsman.

[-o<

AlcoholBrazil wrote:

paolo wrote:

subsub wrote:

paolo wrote:I’m sure you will join me in stating that violence against free speech is wrong and the attackers of Jones should be punished to the fullest extent of the law

There's no such thing as free speech.
And that's a good thing, because it helps to limit the spread of racist, sexist and homophobic views.

Oh dear....

#true colours.

Absolutely.
I'm not in favour of racist, sexist and homophobic views.
How perceptive of you.

JudgeTedd wrote:

subsub wrote:

paolo wrote:

subsub wrote:

paolo wrote:

subsub wrote:

paolo wrote:Not sure you’re in a position to comment on sexism

Strange, whilst ignoring the sexism part where your mind goes in your associations of free speech

Sounds like a personal attack, that, with nothing to back it up.
#standard

I’m sure you’ll qualify how that is a personal attack

You've accused me of being sexist with nothing to back it up.
No doubt you'll now refer to the pictures of beautiful women I've graciously shared on the forum, but that won't cut it, I'm afraid.

Thatiswhat I’ll refer you to

Treating wimmin as sex objects is totally unacceptable

As expected, that's all you've got.
I pre-empted your desperate post. Consider your wings clipped good and proper.
No need to apologise this time, but be careful with your accusations in future [-X

Nice post there Sub!!

Reminds me of the closing moments to the film 8 Mile.

subsub wrote:

paolo wrote:

subsub wrote:

paolo wrote:

subsub wrote:

paolo wrote:Not sure you’re in a position to comment on sexism

Strange, whilst ignoring the sexism part where your mind goes in your associations of free speech

Sounds like a personal attack, that, with nothing to back it up.
#standard

I’m sure you’ll qualify how that is a personal attack

You've accused me of being sexist with nothing to back it up.
No doubt you'll now refer to the pictures of beautiful women I've graciously shared on the forum, but that won't cut it, I'm afraid.

Thatiswhat I’ll refer you to

Treating wimmin as sex objects is totally unacceptable

As expected, that's all you've got.
I pre-empted your desperate post. Consider your wings clipped good and proper.
No need to apologise this time, but be careful with your accusations in future [-X

A real a firm accusation

I’ll always pull you up on it same as I would with racism or homophobia

Ralph wrote:5 pages of whataboutery and stubborn refusal to outright condemn violence against someone with differing political views.

Maybe you need to re read the thread

I saw immediate condemnation of violence against someone with differing political views

You are wrong again Ralph

Please hold your hands up

So still no hard evidence that this was carried out by the "Lovely far right" that the OP suggested ??

Devondevon wrote:

Salem wrote:

kancutlawns wrote:The lovely far right involved in another act of premeditated violence against an obvious target. Jones isn’t many peoples’ cup of tea but should debate be shut down by kicking someone in the head in public?

As Diane Abbot said, this is dangerous times we live in.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49381944

OK..........just for shits and giggles , is there any proof whatsoever that it was indeed "The lovely far right" that carried out this senseless act ?

Quoting Diane Abbott as gospel truth

You’re an idiot if you think she’s been quoted as “gospel truth” but then you’ve always struggled with basic comprehension Bob. Still, you’re able to compensate for it by using retarded laughter emos.

Salem wrote:So still no hard evidence that this was carried out by the "Lovely far right" that the OP suggested ??

The evidence is there if you look Salem. No DM links on here so I reckon it isn’t gospel.

I'll bow to your superior knowledge Lawnsey .

Because all i see is heresay by the victim and his friends .

No matter what the reasons for the assault , i hope those who carried it out are punished as much as they should be

Oh , by the way , i don't read the Daily Mail or any other newspaper for that matter.................apart from the Express and Star

Salem wrote:I'll bow to your superior knowledge Lawnsey .

Because all i see is heresay by the victim and his friends .

No matter what the reasons for the assault , i hope those who carried it out are punished as much as they should be

Thats if an assault really did take place.

He could have provoked it as ive said previously by making a pass at one of the men, their sons or their dads. Was Owen Jones drunk? If it comes to court and everything comes out then id believe it he was assaulted.

He turned up on TV without a scratch on his face and no bruising either. I mean if i kicked him in his head like i kick a football when taking a ong range shot then he would end up in intensive care at the minimum (Ive never been involved in a physical altercation since I was 6 years old)

Anyway i dont think its possible to have any sort of reasonable conversation with someone who quotes Diane Abbott in admiration.

Ralph wrote:5 pages of whataboutery and stubborn refusal to outright condemn violence against someone with differing political views.

C'mon then Ralph . You seem to know everything about everybody .

Where is the evidence that this assault was politically motivated ?

All we have is the victims say so . Do you know something that the rest of us don't ?

For the record , i believe violence should be condemned in any event be it political , racial , Et al .

Probably nothing to do with his politics or which newspaper he scribbles for, most likely an old fashioned case of vey un PC 'queer bashing', no one wanders the streets at 2am looking to bash up a political commentator, most likely got riled by either him, his partner of his mates in the pub.

Salem wrote:Oh , by the way , i don't read the Daily Mail or any other newspaper for that matter.................apart from the Express and Star

So as you said you don't read any newspapers