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Hillman avenger wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 3:44 pm Inconvenient as it may be let us have some facts.

At its peak the US had 110.000 troops in Afghanistan.
When Trump made his "deal" 18 months ago it was 15000.
The Taliban only had to wait, although they did manage to murder 400 government staff while they were waiting.
When Biden took over it was 2500, nowhere near enough to turn it around.
If Biden had wanted to reassert the mission he would have had to order TENS OF THOUSANDS back in during his first weeks in office. Even though poll after poll has showed a majority in the US for getting out.
The US withdrawal is three months later than Trump had promised while Biden's people tried to resuscitate the Afghan state.

66,000 Afghan troops and police have died.

Those that were left were understandably demoralised and were not being paid. Massive amounts of US money intended for such purposes went elsewhere. Not surprising that they ran away,

The Tick wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 3:47 pm The only option was to completely withdraw. The only problem is that Biden's managment of the withdrawal has been poor. He's not originally at fault for all this, but is the one now responsible for seeing it through as smoothly as realistically possible.

Hillman avenger wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 4:17 pm Does he seriously expect people to believe this?

JimmyDee wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 12:15 pm Lest we forget: Tweets don't make it true.

kancutlawns wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 7:10 pm Joe seemingly fucking up on his promise to bring every American out of Afghanistan within the next week. It’s been a horrendous week for him. He needs to pull his finger out and show some leadership.

Hillman, do you know his approval ratings (I know this is a key indicator for you) are plummeting? What should he do to correct things other than offer his resignation?

I actually was all for him becoming President as I thought he would start to fix the country but he needs to fix this fast.

kancutlawns wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 7:10 pm Joe seemingly fucking up on his promise to bring every American out of Afghanistan within the next week. It’s been a horrendous week for him. He needs to pull his finger out and show some leadership.

Hillman, do you know his approval ratings (I know this is a key indicator for you) are plummeting? What should he do to correct things other than offer his resignation?

I actually was all for him becoming President as I thought he would start to fix the country but he needs to fix this fast.

lambrini wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 11:20 pm

kancutlawns wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 7:10 pm Joe seemingly fucking up on his promise to bring every American out of Afghanistan within the next week. It’s been a horrendous week for him. He needs to pull his finger out and show some leadership.

Hillman, do you know his approval ratings (I know this is a key indicator for you) are plummeting? What should he do to correct things other than offer his resignation?

I actually was all for him becoming President as I thought he would start to fix the country but he needs to fix this fast.

He'll resign in the next 12 months or be a one-term president, as planned by the Democrats all along: Usher in Biden and eventually replace him with Kamala or someone else.
He is weak, indecisive, irrational. His beliefs (to the public) go where the wind blows.
America needs a strong, decisive and confident leader. A man, perhaps – a good orator – in his late thirties to early forties.

kancutlawns wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 7:10 pm Joe seemingly fucking up on his promise to bring every American out of Afghanistan within the next week. It’s been a horrendous week for him. He needs to pull his finger out and show some leadership.

Hillman, do you know his approval ratings (I know this is a key indicator for you) are plummeting? What should he do to correct things other than offer his resignation?

I actually was all for him becoming President as I thought he would start to fix the country but he needs to fix this fast.